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I somewhat disagree. My brain does not see a climate control button and think "that button which can control fan speed and cabin temperature probably also contr

by Smoosh 5y ago

I somewhat disagree. My brain does not see a climate control button and think "that button which can control fan speed and cabin temperature probably also controls the weakly-related function of window demisting". I would have no trouble adapting one I knew, but I doubt that I would find it for myself. And relying upon users discovering where functions are located by randomly pressing buttons is a bad UX/interface for a vehicle IMO. EDIT: Or how about this one as in my 2000 model S4: http://www.2040-parts.com/_content/items/images/50/340150/001.jpg http://www.2040-parts.com/_content/items/images/50/340150/00...

bener 5y ago
I agree with all of this, but the assertion that some are making that the window demisting is weakly related to the climate control system seems very odd. It's literally a function of the climate control system, and is almost always part of the same set of buttons as temp/fans etc in a car with hard buttons. When you push the demist button, air is directed to the windscreen, by the same system that directs air to your face or feet.
- avianlyric 5y ago
  I can understand why people would consider window de-misting weakly related to climate control. The use of climate control to de-mist a windscreen is pure implementation detail, and I don’t think the Model 3 even uses climate control for de-misting, instead relying on resistive heaters embedded in the windscreen. Personally I associate climate control and the temperature setting with personal comfort. But de-misting is a core driving control, and sits along side wipers, lights, fog lights etc. I use all those to drive safely, and expect them to be within easy reach of the driver and readily available. Climate I’m happy to have in a sub-menu, because I can always wait to adjust the temperature if I’m dealing with tricky road conditions, same doesn’t apply to de-fogging equipment (which may, or may not, involve the climate control).

by Smoosh 5y ago

bener 5y ago

I agree with all of this, but the assertion that some are making that the window demisting is weakly related to the climate control system seems very odd. It's literally a function of the climate control system, and is almost always part of the same set of buttons as temp/fans etc in a car with hard buttons. When you push the demist button, air is directed to the windscreen, by the same system that directs air to your face or feet.

avianlyric 5y ago
I can understand why people would consider window de-misting weakly related to climate control. The use of climate control to de-mist a windscreen is pure implementation detail, and I don’t think the Model 3 even uses climate control for de-misting, instead relying on resistive heaters embedded in the windscreen. Personally I associate climate control and the temperature setting with personal comfort. But de-misting is a core driving control, and sits along side wipers, lights, fog lights etc. I use all those to drive safely, and expect them to be within easy reach of the driver and readily available. Climate I’m happy to have in a sub-menu, because I can always wait to adjust the temperature if I’m dealing with tricky road conditions, same doesn’t apply to de-fogging equipment (which may, or may not, involve the climate control).