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getting anything sensitive data out of large companies with the GDPR seems to be impossible unless you want to resort to lawyers I was trying to get my matchma

getting anything sensitive data out of large companies with the GDPR seems to be impossible unless you want to resort to lawyers I was trying to get my matchmaking data out of Activision Blizzard and they flat out refused, saying my data was their property their exact response was: > "the information requested are trade secret and/or intellectual property needed to preserve our game integrity" I complained to the regulator, who agreed with my assessment, but to enforce it I'd have to go to court seems the GDPR is basically useless

jdavis703 5y ago
I hear people saying laws that require police reports, police enforcement or interactions with the court are useless. For people like yourself who feel this way, what alternatives do you propose?
- blibble 5y ago
  what's the purpose of a regulator if they agree with you and can't do anything to enforce the law? it's privacy theatre, nothing more
  - jdavis703 5y ago
    The purpose is so they can make rules about complex situations. It’s like how in the US the aviation authority (FAA) and crash investigator (NTSB) don’t really enforce the law, even if a criminal act contributed to the crash. They’ll either forward the information to law enforcement or leave it up to the insurance companies and civil courts to arrive at justice.
    - blibble 5y ago
      believe it or not not every country has the same regulatory system setup as the United States (thank god) the data protection regulators have no ability to create rules... their job is (supposedly) to enforce it
      - jdavis703 5y ago
        So you’re telling me ordinary cops and prosecutors in Europe are capable of investigating highly technical, civil crimes? I’m not an expert in European justice, but based on a few high-profile cases I’ve followed, this doesn’t seem to be the case.
rognjen 5y ago
That's a very interesting situation for two reasons: 1. Arguably your matchmaking data is someone else's as well. Meaning, they'd be potentially exposing other people's data to you. 2. Arguably you don't own the matchmaking data. You only own the initial request for matchmaking. The end result is actually a product of their proprietary algorithm. You didn't generate it. Perhaps it might be a good idea getting in to touch with a privacy campaigner, or if the European equivalent of ACLU exists, and have them test this in court because it affects two different and important aspects.

jdavis703 5y ago

I hear people saying laws that require police reports, police enforcement or interactions with the court are useless. For people like yourself who feel this way, what alternatives do you propose?

blibble 5y ago
what's the purpose of a regulator if they agree with you and can't do anything to enforce the law? it's privacy theatre, nothing more
- jdavis703 5y ago
  The purpose is so they can make rules about complex situations. It’s like how in the US the aviation authority (FAA) and crash investigator (NTSB) don’t really enforce the law, even if a criminal act contributed to the crash. They’ll either forward the information to law enforcement or leave it up to the insurance companies and civil courts to arrive at justice.
  - blibble 5y ago
    believe it or not not every country has the same regulatory system setup as the United States (thank god) the data protection regulators have no ability to create rules... their job is (supposedly) to enforce it
    - jdavis703 5y ago
      So you’re telling me ordinary cops and prosecutors in Europe are capable of investigating highly technical, civil crimes? I’m not an expert in European justice, but based on a few high-profile cases I’ve followed, this doesn’t seem to be the case.

rognjen 5y ago

That's a very interesting situation for two reasons: 1. Arguably your matchmaking data is someone else's as well. Meaning, they'd be potentially exposing other people's data to you. 2. Arguably you don't own the matchmaking data. You only own the initial request for matchmaking. The end result is actually a product of their proprietary algorithm. You didn't generate it. Perhaps it might be a good idea getting in to touch with a privacy campaigner, or if the European equivalent of ACLU exists, and have them test this in court because it affects two different and important aspects.