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>Even Model 3 has a physical hazard light switch. That's because a physical hazard light switch is required by law.

gleenn 5y ago
The irony was it took me a lot longer to find because I was searching through the computer screen for a long time assuming it was there.
- pcurve 5y ago
  And Tesla didn't help you by making too subtle. https://i.insider.com/5a861ac9d0307228108b466c?width=600&format=jpeg&auto=webp https://i.insider.com/5a861ac9d0307228108b466c?width=600&for... Compared this to Hyundai cars, who I don't think gets enough credit for their ergonomics. https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/2022-Hyundai-Ioniq-interior-2.jpg https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/2022-... https://www.genesis.com/content/dam/genesis-p2/kr/assets/models/g80/gallery/genesis-kr-gallery-g80-sport-interior-03-desktop-848x848.jpg https://www.genesis.com/content/dam/genesis-p2/kr/assets/mod...
  - Syonyk 5y ago
    Uh. Really? On the ceiling? Or have I screwed up my perspective entirely there? If it's actually on the ceiling, I either know it's there, or I'll be into pulsing my brakes manually before I bother to find it should I actually need it.
    - pcurve 5y ago
      I thought old Mercedes w221 took the cake for the worst place to put hazard light switch. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e0/14/c2/e014c2545b5af19946c9d61a4fbeaaba.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e0/14/c2/e014c2545b5af19946c9... But model 3 takes the cake.
      - andi999 5y ago
        This is bad. Maybe it is because this switch is often used in Germany (when you approach a traffic jam on the autobahn you should press it), they though after a few of these incidents one would have figured out.
      - morcheeba 5y ago
        At least you can find the W221 button by feel (as one does when they don't want to take their eyes off the road). The w205 one doesn't stick out at all. https://cdn.carbuzz.com/gallery-images/2021-mercedes-benz-c-class-sedan-dashboard-carbuzz-589991.jpg https://cdn.carbuzz.com/gallery-images/2021-mercedes-benz-c-...
        userbinator 5y ago
        That one was even harder to find because it's not centered. In that image I noticed what looks like two Chevy bowties on either side of the steering wheel, before I found the hazard light button (spoiler: it's toward the passenger side and looks almost like the other buttons in the area.)
        pcurve 5y ago
        Agreed. That one seems like an afterthought. Thankfully, the issue has been fixed in w206.
      - zoomablemind 5y ago
        IMO not an unreasonable placement. The button is quite recognizable and right at the fingertips, unless it's been prone to accidental presses. The trim of the dash in the picture, as much as luxurious it may be, reminded me of driving a desk, a walnut or ?mango wood desk... sitting in a comfy four-wheeled office chair. Also notable so many buttons on the driver side door, not sure for what purpose.
        pcurve 5y ago
        Yeah I think for the car's owner, it's not a bad placement. IMHO, it would better if it were also readily visible to occasional passenger. Mercedes did eventually fix the issue in the most recent model w223 https://car-images.bauersecure.com/pagefiles/96149/mercedes_sclass_065.jpg https://car-images.bauersecure.com/pagefiles/96149/mercedes_...
    - userbinator 5y ago
      That was my reaction too. It took me a few seconds to realise I was looking up at the dome lights, and the object half-visible in the bottom of that image is the rearview mirror. This video confirms it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIBMxGdbjfo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIBMxGdbjfo On every other car I've been in, any switches in that location I would naturally assume are for controlling the lights right next to it, but evidently no one in Tesla's design chain thought of that...

The irony was it took me a lot longer to find because I was searching through the computer screen for a long time assuming it was there.

pcurve 5y ago
And Tesla didn't help you by making too subtle. https://i.insider.com/5a861ac9d0307228108b466c?width=600&format=jpeg&auto=webp https://i.insider.com/5a861ac9d0307228108b466c?width=600&for... Compared this to Hyundai cars, who I don't think gets enough credit for their ergonomics. https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/2022-Hyundai-Ioniq-interior-2.jpg https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/2022-... https://www.genesis.com/content/dam/genesis-p2/kr/assets/models/g80/gallery/genesis-kr-gallery-g80-sport-interior-03-desktop-848x848.jpg https://www.genesis.com/content/dam/genesis-p2/kr/assets/mod...
- Syonyk 5y ago
  Uh. Really? On the ceiling? Or have I screwed up my perspective entirely there? If it's actually on the ceiling, I either know it's there, or I'll be into pulsing my brakes manually before I bother to find it should I actually need it.
  - pcurve 5y ago
    I thought old Mercedes w221 took the cake for the worst place to put hazard light switch. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e0/14/c2/e014c2545b5af19946c9d61a4fbeaaba.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e0/14/c2/e014c2545b5af19946c9... But model 3 takes the cake.
    - andi999 5y ago
      This is bad. Maybe it is because this switch is often used in Germany (when you approach a traffic jam on the autobahn you should press it), they though after a few of these incidents one would have figured out.
    - morcheeba 5y ago
      At least you can find the W221 button by feel (as one does when they don't want to take their eyes off the road). The w205 one doesn't stick out at all. https://cdn.carbuzz.com/gallery-images/2021-mercedes-benz-c-class-sedan-dashboard-carbuzz-589991.jpg https://cdn.carbuzz.com/gallery-images/2021-mercedes-benz-c-...
      - userbinator 5y ago
        That one was even harder to find because it's not centered. In that image I noticed what looks like two Chevy bowties on either side of the steering wheel, before I found the hazard light button (spoiler: it's toward the passenger side and looks almost like the other buttons in the area.)
      - pcurve 5y ago
        Agreed. That one seems like an afterthought. Thankfully, the issue has been fixed in w206.
    - zoomablemind 5y ago
      IMO not an unreasonable placement. The button is quite recognizable and right at the fingertips, unless it's been prone to accidental presses. The trim of the dash in the picture, as much as luxurious it may be, reminded me of driving a desk, a walnut or ?mango wood desk... sitting in a comfy four-wheeled office chair. Also notable so many buttons on the driver side door, not sure for what purpose.
      - pcurve 5y ago
        Yeah I think for the car's owner, it's not a bad placement. IMHO, it would better if it were also readily visible to occasional passenger. Mercedes did eventually fix the issue in the most recent model w223 https://car-images.bauersecure.com/pagefiles/96149/mercedes_sclass_065.jpg https://car-images.bauersecure.com/pagefiles/96149/mercedes_...
  - userbinator 5y ago
    That was my reaction too. It took me a few seconds to realise I was looking up at the dome lights, and the object half-visible in the bottom of that image is the rearview mirror. This video confirms it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIBMxGdbjfo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIBMxGdbjfo On every other car I've been in, any switches in that location I would naturally assume are for controlling the lights right next to it, but evidently no one in Tesla's design chain thought of that...