> That's.... that's just silly. How would you deliver, say, Trello as a boring website? Or Google Maps? Or Grafana? Do you really think the developers of these

> That's.... that's just silly. How would you deliver, say, Trello as a boring website? Or Google Maps? Or Grafana? Do you really think the developers of these apps are grossly negligent? Of those, I've used only Google Maps. Like Google itself, GMaps was great when it started! And they continue adding new knowledge to it that makes it more useful. But, like Google itself (though not as bad), when it comes to the interface it feels like there's mostly change just for the sake of change, with little thought given to whether it's good or bad change, so long as it's new. (I compare it to the StackExchange empire, which seems to suffer a similar churn mostly for the sake of the appearance of motion and of novelty.)