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Not to defend their methodology, but your attempt to equate the GOP baseball shooting with an attempted coup says a lot more about your biases than the study au

Not to defend their methodology, but your attempt to equate the GOP baseball shooting with an attempted coup says a lot more about your biases than the study authors'.

chroem- 5y ago
- ModernMech 5y ago
  Some people were indeed just trespassing, and were charged with trespassing. Others were trespassing and also fighting with police, and they have been charged with more serious offenses. A third group went even further and was actually executing a plan to overthrow the government, and they have been charged with seditious conspiracy.
- dwater 5y ago
  Of the 700+ people charged for their participation in the January 6th Capitol riot, 11 have been charged with seditious conspiracy. 225 people were charged with assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers or employees. More than 75 of those were charged with using a deadly or dangerous weapon against police officers or causing serious bodily injury to an officer. 640 people were charged with entering a restricted federal building or its grounds. More than 75 were charged with entering a restricted area with a deadly weapon.
  - chroem- 5y ago
    I don't believe it's fair to characterize the actions of a larger group based on those of a minority. We were repeatedly told that the summer 2020 protests were 93% peaceful, and that the fires, pipebombs, and shootings shouldn't distract from the larger message.
- rurp 5y ago
  If Al Capone was a murderer why was he convicted of tax evasion?
WalterBright 5y ago
There was the CHAZ (Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone) established in Seattle where they explicitly seceded from the United States. In doing so, they pushed out all the police and set fire to the police station while barricading the doors with the remaining police inside (fortunately, the police escaped). The CHAZ rioters also occupied and vandalized City Hall.
- stjohnswarts 5y ago
  Which has absolutely nothing to do with a full on coupe attempting to end our democracy by capturing the VP and Congress. There has always been civil unrest in the USA since the beginning. However never has a President attempted to overthrow and subvert the will of the people in a Presidential election through a violent mob. The two things only share one thing in common "two groups of people doing violence"
  - WalterBright 5y ago
    Seceding from the US is, literally, an insurrection.

Not to defend their methodology, but your attempt to equate the GOP baseball shooting with an attempted coup says a lot more about your biases than the study authors'.

chroem- 5y ago

ModernMech 5y ago
Some people were indeed just trespassing, and were charged with trespassing. Others were trespassing and also fighting with police, and they have been charged with more serious offenses. A third group went even further and was actually executing a plan to overthrow the government, and they have been charged with seditious conspiracy.
dwater 5y ago
Of the 700+ people charged for their participation in the January 6th Capitol riot, 11 have been charged with seditious conspiracy. 225 people were charged with assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers or employees. More than 75 of those were charged with using a deadly or dangerous weapon against police officers or causing serious bodily injury to an officer. 640 people were charged with entering a restricted federal building or its grounds. More than 75 were charged with entering a restricted area with a deadly weapon.
- chroem- 5y ago
  I don't believe it's fair to characterize the actions of a larger group based on those of a minority. We were repeatedly told that the summer 2020 protests were 93% peaceful, and that the fires, pipebombs, and shootings shouldn't distract from the larger message.
rurp 5y ago
If Al Capone was a murderer why was he convicted of tax evasion?

WalterBright 5y ago

There was the CHAZ (Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone) established in Seattle where they explicitly seceded from the United States. In doing so, they pushed out all the police and set fire to the police station while barricading the doors with the remaining police inside (fortunately, the police escaped). The CHAZ rioters also occupied and vandalized City Hall.

stjohnswarts 5y ago
Which has absolutely nothing to do with a full on coupe attempting to end our democracy by capturing the VP and Congress. There has always been civil unrest in the USA since the beginning. However never has a President attempted to overthrow and subvert the will of the people in a Presidential election through a violent mob. The two things only share one thing in common "two groups of people doing violence"
- WalterBright 5y ago
  Seceding from the US is, literally, an insurrection.