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I literally explained how its speech but against the principle of free speech--and you just cherry picked around the explanation. Hardly ignoring it. Statemen
by rhino369 5y ago
I literally explained how its speech but against the principle of free speech--and you just cherry picked around the explanation. Hardly ignoring it.
Statement and actions that are against freedom of speech are still allowed under freedom of speech. That's not some GOTCHA against the freedom of speech. Young should be allowed to do what he's doing. But he should fully expect to be called a censoring blacklister.
- sanderjd 5y agoI didn't cherry pick. What you're saying here just doesn't really make sense. It isn't "against freedom of speech" to exercise your own freedom of association.
- rhino369 5y agoObviously you can speak against freedom of speech. The freedom of speech would allow that speech (and nobody is saying Young should be prevented from what he is doing). But you'd still be advocating censorship. You can join a political group advocating for censorship. That's attempted censorship even if its allowed under freedom of speech. So yes, you can exercise your freedom of speech to speak against freedom of speech. There is no contradiction.
- sanderjd 5y agoYes, you can speak against freedom of speech, that just isn't what's going on here. Saying "I don't want to be associated with a company that is associated with this person" is not "speaking against free speech". Saying "this person should be kept from speaking anywhere" would be speaking against free speech, but that's not what's going on here.