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Colleges and universities across the US are moving to ban caste discrimination
- jelliclesfarm 5y agoShouldn’t admission be based on entrance exams/test scores so everyone excels in what they have aptitude for…is that what meritocracy is about?
- errantmind 5y agoYou assume they care at all about meritocracy (hint: they don't)
- beerandt 5y agoThey didn't like the results when they tried that.
- musicale 5y ago"Meritocracy" seems to have been coined in a dystopian satire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rise_of_the_Meritocracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rise_of_the_Meritocracy
- snowgrove 5y agoIt’s bizarre that universities are banning caste discrimination while at the same time actively discriminating based on race. See recent Harvard lawsuit over Asian student admissions.
- daniel-cussen 5y agoYeah including discriminating against all castes of South Asian students.
- tsol 5y agoNot really, considering they're both different types of discrimination. Acceptance quotas, while controversial, is different from racial discrimination.
- olliej 5y agoThe various racial “quotas”, etc exist to offset the impact of the other racist policies and biases in the university’s enrollment system. It would be nice if they weren’t needed, but history shows that they are.
- snowgrove 5y agoThis is one justification for racial admissions quotas. It ignores how black students admitted to Harvard often come not from the descendants of enslaved Americans but high-income first generation African immigrant families, or how many white students such as the children of coal miners and steelworkers have also suffered historical disadvantages. It also ignores how economically-disadvantaged Asian families have successfully used merit-based admissions as a ladder out of poverty, and how racial admissions quotas pull that ladder out of reach for many.
- bennysomething 5y agoWhich is a great argument against lumping people into groups based on race.
- vanusa 5y agoThe various racial “quotas”, etc exist to offset the impact. What's with the ironic quotes on “quotas”? Are they instances of active discrimination, or are they not? History shows that they are [needed]. A highly contentious assertion.
- strikelaserclaw 5y agoregardless of what you guys think, Harvard seems to have a pretty good system in place to benefit themselves, until that stops working, i don't think they will stop using their own admission policies.
- tharne 5y agoThis would require universities to admit that people who aren't of European ancestry can also be racist. I'm betting we're going to see a serious effort on the left to start categorizing South Asians as white.
- Dah00n 5y ago
- ttfkam 5y agoIn today's edition of "Tell everyone you didn't read the article without actually saying you didn't read the article." Also no, the left will not for a wide variety of reasons not the least of which is the lack of innate hierarchy in their worldview, typically found among right-leaning ideologies.
- tsol 5y agoGood news. Unfortunately because this is a niche issue that most people aren't familiar with, it can be difficult to make progress. This is a positive move
- tharne 5y agoI see this a lot where I work. It's bad, but it does seem to fly under the radar.
- throwawaysea 5y agoIs this a real issue? I feel like the real issue is that colleges use race based admissions and discriminate against Asian students. This seems like a distraction.
- olliej 5y agoMost Ivy leagues discriminate against everyone who isn’t white, but they do it through legacy enrollments rather than explicitly saying it’s about race. The various racial “quotas” are a very hamfisted attempt to compensate that and other racist policies and biases. It’s important to remember that you can easily make intentionally biased policies without ever mentioning the target of the bias.
- indiauk56 5y ago