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I think there is not. You are not allowed to download the video and host it yourself, that would be a copyright violation. Am I missing a legally valid way?

by onli 5y ago

HL33tibCe7 5y ago
Okay but let’s say you have permission to host the content — e.g: you actually own the video. Do you still think it’s reasonable that it should be a legal requirement that to embed a video on your web page you must develop your own video delivery infrastructure?
- Jensson 5y ago
  You pay for that content delivery by selling the users data to Google. Do you think that is fair that the user should pay for your video hosting with his data? If the user wants to see the video, sure, but that hasn't been made clear yet at this stage.
- mrweasel 5y ago
  You could just link to YouTube and not embed the video. I think the important part is that this is an issue, only because companies like have had a surprising hard time not misusing every single bit of information sent their way. The result is that companies have forced governments to step in and now they are overregulating.
  - aembleton 5y ago
    But if you link and your browser preloads links to speed up browsing, then your IP address would still be leaked.
    - floatingatoll 5y ago
      If you specify preload=yes or other take any steps whatsoever to promote preloading of the (non-GDPR) YouTube link, then you would definitely be responsible for the user’s IP leaking to a non-GDPR site, and risk owing fines under GDPR. If you do not request preload behavior, then you’re just linking another site on the web, and users are considered to understand that links go to other sites, and that’s acceptable. A theoretical GDPR complaint would find that the user agent was responsible for the behavior, not you as site operator. (I am not your lawyer, this is not legal advice.)
- onli 5y ago
  Well, it depends. If it's a short video that fits into your available traffic that you can just self-host with a video tag, why shouldn't you take that option? If it would be a huge burden like where you really would have to develop infrastructure despite that not being in your budget nor competence, then of course not. I already agreed in a comment above that these questions wrongly answered by a pure privacy maximizing position carry a huge danger for the german web.
  - YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo 5y ago
    https://github.com/heiseonline/embetty https://github.com/heiseonline/embetty maybe just use software to fix the problem instead of spreading FUD. HuGe DaNgEr

I think there is not. You are not allowed to download the video and host it yourself, that would be a copyright violation. Am I missing a legally valid way?

by onli 5y ago

I think there is not. You are not allowed to download the video and host it yourself, that would be a copyright violation. Am I missing a legally valid way?

HL33tibCe7 5y ago

Okay but let’s say you have permission to host the content — e.g: you actually own the video. Do you still think it’s reasonable that it should be a legal requirement that to embed a video on your web page you must develop your own video delivery infrastructure?

Jensson 5y ago
You pay for that content delivery by selling the users data to Google. Do you think that is fair that the user should pay for your video hosting with his data? If the user wants to see the video, sure, but that hasn't been made clear yet at this stage.
mrweasel 5y ago
You could just link to YouTube and not embed the video. I think the important part is that this is an issue, only because companies like have had a surprising hard time not misusing every single bit of information sent their way. The result is that companies have forced governments to step in and now they are overregulating.
- aembleton 5y ago
  But if you link and your browser preloads links to speed up browsing, then your IP address would still be leaked.
  - floatingatoll 5y ago
    If you specify preload=yes or other take any steps whatsoever to promote preloading of the (non-GDPR) YouTube link, then you would definitely be responsible for the user’s IP leaking to a non-GDPR site, and risk owing fines under GDPR. If you do not request preload behavior, then you’re just linking another site on the web, and users are considered to understand that links go to other sites, and that’s acceptable. A theoretical GDPR complaint would find that the user agent was responsible for the behavior, not you as site operator. (I am not your lawyer, this is not legal advice.)
onli 5y ago
Well, it depends. If it's a short video that fits into your available traffic that you can just self-host with a video tag, why shouldn't you take that option? If it would be a huge burden like where you really would have to develop infrastructure despite that not being in your budget nor competence, then of course not. I already agreed in a comment above that these questions wrongly answered by a pure privacy maximizing position carry a huge danger for the german web.
- YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo 5y ago
  https://github.com/heiseonline/embetty https://github.com/heiseonline/embetty maybe just use software to fix the problem instead of spreading FUD. HuGe DaNgEr