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Articles like this must be the best possible ISIS propaganda. A nation does this, refuses to reign in the perpetrators, and really believes itself to be the go

Articles like this must be the best possible ISIS propaganda. A nation does this, refuses to reign in the perpetrators, and really believes itself to be the good guy? I can understand when muslims read this and say to themselves: Maybe ISIS is not that bad after all.

jevoten 5y ago
> A nation does this, refuses to reign in the perpetrators, and really believes itself to be the good guy? A government. Large parts of the left and the right are no fans of the CIA. But it's one of those things voters have lost all control over, just like no matter who they vote for, US meddling in the middle east will continue. Edit: In fact, even the (elected) government has lost control of the CIA: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/31/cia-admits-spying-senate-staffers https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/31/cia-admits-spy...
- fatjokes 5y ago
  And the government doesn't represent the people of that nation? Then what the hell is the point of democracy?
  - hulitu 5y ago
    No. The point of democracy is to spread "democracy" to other parts of the globe so that they can be cheaply exploited. It has nothing to do with the people of the nation. The only masters are some of the big corporations.
  - voakbasda 5y ago
    You don’t really expect the people to take responsibility for the actions of their government, do you? That would require us to have some authority to change the status quo, or be able to hold the government accountable. Neither option seems remotely possible, based on everything that I have seen in the last 40 years.
  - jevoten 5y ago
    The point of democracy is to try to make it represent the people. Often, it fails.
- daniel-cussen 5y ago
  It's formally under the control of the president, directly. So that means, if the president is a "bad chess player," to put it one way, the CIA is in control of itself. What were you expecting?
qazpot 5y ago
Muslims do not need to read article like these to get violent or support ISIS they can read they holy book for all the inspirations for doing violence.
- selimthegrim 5y ago
  Remind me who dasas are in Vedas again?
  - qazpot 5y ago
    How would I know I have never read them.

jevoten 5y ago

> A nation does this, refuses to reign in the perpetrators, and really believes itself to be the good guy? A government. Large parts of the left and the right are no fans of the CIA. But it's one of those things voters have lost all control over, just like no matter who they vote for, US meddling in the middle east will continue. Edit: In fact, even the (elected) government has lost control of the CIA: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/31/cia-admits-spying-senate-staffers https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/31/cia-admits-spy...

fatjokes 5y ago
And the government doesn't represent the people of that nation? Then what the hell is the point of democracy?
- hulitu 5y ago
  No. The point of democracy is to spread "democracy" to other parts of the globe so that they can be cheaply exploited. It has nothing to do with the people of the nation. The only masters are some of the big corporations.
- voakbasda 5y ago
  You don’t really expect the people to take responsibility for the actions of their government, do you? That would require us to have some authority to change the status quo, or be able to hold the government accountable. Neither option seems remotely possible, based on everything that I have seen in the last 40 years.
- jevoten 5y ago
  The point of democracy is to try to make it represent the people. Often, it fails.
daniel-cussen 5y ago
It's formally under the control of the president, directly. So that means, if the president is a "bad chess player," to put it one way, the CIA is in control of itself. What were you expecting?

qazpot 5y ago

Muslims do not need to read article like these to get violent or support ISIS they can read they holy book for all the inspirations for doing violence.

selimthegrim 5y ago
Remind me who dasas are in Vedas again?
- qazpot 5y ago
  How would I know I have never read them.