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...then there is a pretty high chance the war will be lost. That is the status quo. USA military has not won a war in my parents' lifetimes. USA military is op
by jessaustin 5y ago
...then there is a pretty high chance the war will be lost.
That is the status quo. USA military has not won a war in my parents' lifetimes. USA military is optimized to consume resources, not to accomplish traditional military objectives.
- spaetzleesser 5y agoThe first Iraq war could be considered a victory. Clear objectives, once achieved the war stopped. Bush Sr was smart enough not to expand the war although a lot of people were pushing for a march into Baghdad.
- jessaustin 5y agoThat war didn't "stop", since USA military remained in Arabia for reasons. This occupation was cited as the reason for the 9/11 attacks. So, the enlisted did their jobs but the end result makes it feel sort of weird to call this a victory.
- eru 5y agoWell, we also say that the allies won the first world war, even though many people see the harsh treatment of Germany as contributing to the second world war. (So I think that calling both of them victories is reasonable. If you want, you can also call both of them failures. But it seems a bit weird to call one a victory and the other not.)
- bryanrasmussen 5y agoHey what about Grenada? I remember this movie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartbreak_Ridge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartbreak_Ridge celebrating the victory!
- jessaustin 5y agoAlso... f2r is correct as usual.