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In 2019 2.85 million Americans have died. Should we stop enjoying our lives because of this?

• the_mar 5y ago
  Nobody said you can't enjoy your lives. Nobody is calling to shut down all restaurants. But like to put it in perspectives: extra 1M people died, many more millions are in financial ruin, hudreeds of thousands are facing long-term health consequences. Restaurant reservations being down on one platform is hardly of any importance in comparison. Try getting a reservation for a friday night in any decent place in Manhattan, I dare you
• undersuit 5y ago
  >In 2020, approximately 3,358,814 deaths occurred in the United States. Of course not all those deaths were Covid related but I think we usually try to reduce unnecessary deaths...
  • walterbell 5y ago
    Yes, e.g. next time we should not send infected patients into nursing homes.
    • undersuit 5y ago
      They weren't sent into nursing homes, they were returned to their homes which were nursing homes.
      • walterbell 5y ago
        Was that an appropriate time for them to return?
        • undersuit 5y ago
          The nursing homes couldn't stop them. It was their home. They'd been discharged from the hospital. Are you arguing they can't return home? A bunch of elderly people just discharged from the hospital forced to live on the streets in April?
          • walterbell 5y ago
            There were more than two options. Hotels in NYC were used to safely house people during the pandemic, including homeless. For more details, there were multiple reports and investigations, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_COVID-19_nursing_home_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_COVID-19_nursing_home... https://nypost.com/2022/01/23/nursing-home-families-blast-hochul-for-excluding-victims-fund-in-state-budget/ https://nypost.com/2022/01/23/nursing-home-families-blast-ho... > the 9/11-style Nursing Home Victims Compensation Fund would earmark $4 billion to families whose relatives died amid the state’s nursing home debacle at the start of the pandemic ... Kim’s legislation is in response to a provision included in ex-Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s 2020 state budget called the “Emergency or Disaster Treatment Protection Act,” which granted health care facilities and workers liability immunity from negligence suits during the early days of the pandemic. > The corporate immunity clause was supported by New York’s powerful healthcare lobbying group, the Greater New York Hospital Association – which has donated millions to Cuomo’s campaign in the past, according to reports ... "The former governor took millions of dollars in donations from the millionaire nursing home owners, gave those friends blanket protection for their negligence which led to 15,000 deaths, and then tried to hide those deaths from the public”
            • undersuit 5y ago
              What are these links? Do they make some kind of cogent argument or are you just kicking the dead Cuomo horse?
              • walterbell 5y ago
                As of January 2022, the families of the 15,000 victims do not consider the case closed.