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The current lie is that there is a threat of a new invasion. Not even Ukrainian leadership agrees with this, but it doesn't seem to affect planning in the Unite

by mrobot 5y ago

The current lie is that there is a threat of a new invasion. Not even Ukrainian leadership agrees with this, but it doesn't seem to affect planning in the United States. "They invaded 8 years ago" hm ok. Do you know what a US color revolution is? https://www.wrongkindofgreen.org/2014/03/11/pierre-omidyar-co-funded-ukraine-revolution-groups-with-us-government-documents-show/ https://www.wrongkindofgreen.org/2014/03/11/pierre-omidyar-c...

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phantomathkg 5y ago
Most of the countries have two or two choices, align with Russia/China, or align with the West. Back in 2017, 69% of Ukrainian wants to join NATO[1]. It is Putin's own fascination that Ukraine should go back to Russia that starts all this mess[2]. Even if US has sponsored the color revolution, so what? Between two evils, choose the lesser one. [1]: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-nato-idUSKBN19V12V https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-nato-idUSKBN19V12... [2]: http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181 http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181
- mrobot 5y ago
  Lesser of two evils applies when there is a dichotomy of two likely outcomes both of which you see as evil. In this case, the United States can simply not invade. Then there will be no problem. The problem is that Jen Psaki is going on television and telling the country a bold-faced lie. It is just a lie, that is all there is to it. Russia is not the aggressor. The United State is the aggressor. No US invasion, no evil.
  - phantomathkg 5y ago
    Unless you are living in parallel universe. Russia invaded Georgia in 2008 and created puppet state Abkhazia and South Ossetia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine in 2014, US was not involved. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Ru... US also not involved in the war in Donbas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas If you cannot provide proof, then what you said are flat out lie.
  - kspacewalk2 5y ago
    Amazing. It's like you live in a parallel universe where the US, not Russia, is preparing to invade by amassing a hundred thousand troops, issuing insane ultimatums, dehumanizing the enemy daily on its propaganda outlets, etc.

by mrobot 5y ago

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phantomathkg 5y ago

Most of the countries have two or two choices, align with Russia/China, or align with the West. Back in 2017, 69% of Ukrainian wants to join NATO[1]. It is Putin's own fascination that Ukraine should go back to Russia that starts all this mess[2]. Even if US has sponsored the color revolution, so what? Between two evils, choose the lesser one. [1]: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-nato-idUSKBN19V12V https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-nato-idUSKBN19V12... [2]: http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181 http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181

mrobot 5y ago
Lesser of two evils applies when there is a dichotomy of two likely outcomes both of which you see as evil. In this case, the United States can simply not invade. Then there will be no problem. The problem is that Jen Psaki is going on television and telling the country a bold-faced lie. It is just a lie, that is all there is to it. Russia is not the aggressor. The United State is the aggressor. No US invasion, no evil.
- phantomathkg 5y ago
  Unless you are living in parallel universe. Russia invaded Georgia in 2008 and created puppet state Abkhazia and South Ossetia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine in 2014, US was not involved. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Ru... US also not involved in the war in Donbas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas If you cannot provide proof, then what you said are flat out lie.
- kspacewalk2 5y ago
  Amazing. It's like you live in a parallel universe where the US, not Russia, is preparing to invade by amassing a hundred thousand troops, issuing insane ultimatums, dehumanizing the enemy daily on its propaganda outlets, etc.