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sorry are you saying that the US imposing vaccine requirements for truckers is also the US government wanting to punish people?

by zht 5y ago

ipaddr 5y ago
The US has their own reasons. Part of it is some people see others who didn't take the vaccine as amoral or the reason why things are still locked down. Those people need to be punished some believe. Many have been feed partial truths and political leaders have used this to deflect blame and place it on a minority population. The smaller the minority the harsher the treatment.
- bsder 5y ago
  > Part of it is some people see others who didn't take the vaccine as amoral or the reason why things are still locked down. Well, anti-vax people ARE part of the problem why things are still locked down as anti-vax people are currently taking up most of the critical hospital capacity. > Those people need to be punished some believe. From my personal experience, on the anti-vax side we have a wife who watched her husband die from Covid but still won't get herself OR HER SON the vaccine. If we change the words from Republican Trumper to Christian Scientist, suddenly the exact same people think it's okay to throw people in jail for these kinds of beliefs. At this point, Omicron is solving our anti-vax problem. I feel sorry for those who can't get vaccinated. I've had Covid before vaccines (that sucked and continues to suck in many ways) and I got vaccinated as well. But I, personally, can't do anything more. At this point it looks like by the end of February, Omicron will have burned through everybody, and we can get back to normal. And so it goes.
  - version_five 5y ago
    The article being discussed had nothing to do with being against vaccines or hesitant to take the covid vaccine. It is about people protesting a mandate that forces them to share and prove medical information to do their jobs, and participate in society broadly. The examples you share are not really relevant to that discussion
    - jleyank 5y ago
      Bullsh*t. It's about people who just don't buy into the Covid bit and hate being inconvenienced. There's already a lot of restrictions in crossing borders, requiring a drivers license, requiring insurance, training, ... and controlling what can and can't be consumed on the job. So they're already under a whole lot of mandates that weren't oppressive last week. Hell, you can't eat peanuts in school anymore but that doesn't bother anybody. And with the Confederate, US, Trump, ... paraphernalia in the progression, they're just the same as the folks down south who thought 1/6 was a tour group. Forgot. There's a whole lot of vaccines that don't bother people, such as getting kids into school, traveling to certain parts of the world, working in certain fields, etc. And when they complain about the mRNA vaccines, they're not pointing out that the various alternatives (traditional and novel) aren't their choice - they just lump them all together and complain. And for those interested in googling, check out the responses of politicians when the Truckers screw up transport vs. what happened when the First Nations did. And they had similar complaints.
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sorry are you saying that the US imposing vaccine requirements for truckers is also the US government wanting to punish people?

by zht 5y ago

sorry are you saying that the US imposing vaccine requirements for truckers is also the US government wanting to punish people?

ipaddr 5y ago

The US has their own reasons. Part of it is some people see others who didn't take the vaccine as amoral or the reason why things are still locked down. Those people need to be punished some believe. Many have been feed partial truths and political leaders have used this to deflect blame and place it on a minority population. The smaller the minority the harsher the treatment.

bsder 5y ago
> Part of it is some people see others who didn't take the vaccine as amoral or the reason why things are still locked down. Well, anti-vax people ARE part of the problem why things are still locked down as anti-vax people are currently taking up most of the critical hospital capacity. > Those people need to be punished some believe. From my personal experience, on the anti-vax side we have a wife who watched her husband die from Covid but still won't get herself OR HER SON the vaccine. If we change the words from Republican Trumper to Christian Scientist, suddenly the exact same people think it's okay to throw people in jail for these kinds of beliefs. At this point, Omicron is solving our anti-vax problem. I feel sorry for those who can't get vaccinated. I've had Covid before vaccines (that sucked and continues to suck in many ways) and I got vaccinated as well. But I, personally, can't do anything more. At this point it looks like by the end of February, Omicron will have burned through everybody, and we can get back to normal. And so it goes.
- version_five 5y ago
  The article being discussed had nothing to do with being against vaccines or hesitant to take the covid vaccine. It is about people protesting a mandate that forces them to share and prove medical information to do their jobs, and participate in society broadly. The examples you share are not really relevant to that discussion
  - jleyank 5y ago
    Bullsh*t. It's about people who just don't buy into the Covid bit and hate being inconvenienced. There's already a lot of restrictions in crossing borders, requiring a drivers license, requiring insurance, training, ... and controlling what can and can't be consumed on the job. So they're already under a whole lot of mandates that weren't oppressive last week. Hell, you can't eat peanuts in school anymore but that doesn't bother anybody. And with the Confederate, US, Trump, ... paraphernalia in the progression, they're just the same as the folks down south who thought 1/6 was a tour group. Forgot. There's a whole lot of vaccines that don't bother people, such as getting kids into school, traveling to certain parts of the world, working in certain fields, etc. And when they complain about the mRNA vaccines, they're not pointing out that the various alternatives (traditional and novel) aren't their choice - they just lump them all together and complain. And for those interested in googling, check out the responses of politicians when the Truckers screw up transport vs. what happened when the First Nations did. And they had similar complaints.

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