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> So I still need a DNS name False. You can use Ethereum Name Service. ENS is an on-chain version of DNS that is not controlled by a centralized gatekeeper. >

> So I still need a DNS name False. You can use Ethereum Name Service. ENS is an on-chain version of DNS that is not controlled by a centralized gatekeeper. >I still need a server, I still need storage False. You can use IPFS and Filecoin to store and serve files not controlled by a centralized gatekeeper. That all said, this article is embarrassing. If you want a some critical ideas of web3, read Moxie's piece: https://moxie.org/2022/01/07/web3-first-impressions.html https://moxie.org/2022/01/07/web3-first-impressions.html

gaadd33 5y ago
I don't know anything about ENS and was wondering does it work if DNS is down or unavailable in your location?
- magicjosh 5y ago
  I'm curious about this as well. Here's my simple mental model. DNS lives on the core DNS servers and is replicated elsewhere. DNS being "down" would mean that the core DNS servers were taken down. ENS [1] lives on the Ethereum blockchain. ENS being "down" would mean that Ethereum itself was down. ENS names (.eth) resolve to address hashes on the Ethereum blockchain. So to answer your question, they are parallel systems, so one going down doesn't affect the other. However, the thing I'm wondering is if DNS goes down, does it take ENS with it? I'm not sure how the whole ".eth" part works, is that on DNS. [1] https://docs.ens.domains/ https://docs.ens.domains/
  - gaadd33 5y ago
    Or even as simple as you don't have a working local resolver. But yeah, that's my basic question, is ethereum (and by extension ENS) dependent on DNS or could you run it all without any problems?
jagger27 5y ago
Why would anyone want to spend deflationary currency renting an ENS domain today when no one outside the echo chamber space cares about them and DNS is ~10x cheaper? The gas fees alone are brutal.
- magicjosh 5y ago
  Oh I'm not making a case for why anyone would want to do any of this. I'm simply stating that the author is incorrect. You don't need centralized DNS on web3 because you can use on-chain ENS. And you don't need centralized storage or servers on web3 because you can use IPFS and Filecoin. Yep, it's as expensive as all hell, I can't figure out why people will really want to use it that much either. But the author is still incorrect.

gaadd33 5y ago

I don't know anything about ENS and was wondering does it work if DNS is down or unavailable in your location?

magicjosh 5y ago
I'm curious about this as well. Here's my simple mental model. DNS lives on the core DNS servers and is replicated elsewhere. DNS being "down" would mean that the core DNS servers were taken down. ENS [1] lives on the Ethereum blockchain. ENS being "down" would mean that Ethereum itself was down. ENS names (.eth) resolve to address hashes on the Ethereum blockchain. So to answer your question, they are parallel systems, so one going down doesn't affect the other. However, the thing I'm wondering is if DNS goes down, does it take ENS with it? I'm not sure how the whole ".eth" part works, is that on DNS. [1] https://docs.ens.domains/ https://docs.ens.domains/
- gaadd33 5y ago
  Or even as simple as you don't have a working local resolver. But yeah, that's my basic question, is ethereum (and by extension ENS) dependent on DNS or could you run it all without any problems?

jagger27 5y ago

Why would anyone want to spend deflationary currency renting an ENS domain today when no one outside the echo chamber space cares about them and DNS is ~10x cheaper? The gas fees alone are brutal.

magicjosh 5y ago
Oh I'm not making a case for why anyone would want to do any of this. I'm simply stating that the author is incorrect. You don't need centralized DNS on web3 because you can use on-chain ENS. And you don't need centralized storage or servers on web3 because you can use IPFS and Filecoin. Yep, it's as expensive as all hell, I can't figure out why people will really want to use it that much either. But the author is still incorrect.