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I honestly don't know what to think about the PP. I want them to be more than a one-hit wonder but they seem to not have much of a political agenda other than "

by leon_ 15y ago

I honestly don't know what to think about the PP. I want them to be more than a one-hit wonder but they seem to not have much of a political agenda other than "legalize warez" and "don't censor the net". I hope their success stirs up the other parties a little.

icebraining 15y ago
I think PP shows how badly prepared are current democratic systems to handle a wider diversity of opinions. Politics got less ideological and more pragmatic, and that leads to a wider diversity of opinions, which the current systems aren't prepared to handle. The concept of all encompassing parties doesn't scale; we need a way for people to show their support for very targeted movements like PP without feeling they're wasting their vote away.
- m_st 15y ago
  Very true indeed. Personally I could never join one of the many parties as they all have some opinions I just can't agree with. This really makes voting quite hard. In Switzerland we now have http://smartvote.ch/?lang=en_GB http://smartvote.ch/?lang=en_GB were you fill out a questionnaire and then get some politicians matching your profile. While certainly not perfect, it is already a good start.
  - FrojoS 15y ago
    Something like this exists in Germany, too for parties: www.wahl-o-mat.de A possible solution, to the problem you describe might be Liquid Democracy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_democracy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_democracy
- skeptical 15y ago
  huh... doesn't it shows the opposite of that? I mean, if the pirate party was able to achieve a remarkable success doesn't that mean that the political system works? At least in the german case. Most of the characters involved in the politics game are not doing their job, I guess that's what you mean?
  - icebraining 15y ago
    I think they achieved that result despite the problems with the political system. Remember this was just a local election; while getting a seat in Berlin is obviously important, it's not exactly the national parliament. My guess is that people felt this election was unimportant enough that they could 'waste' a vote making a point.

by leon_ 15y ago

icebraining 15y ago

I think PP shows how badly prepared are current democratic systems to handle a wider diversity of opinions. Politics got less ideological and more pragmatic, and that leads to a wider diversity of opinions, which the current systems aren't prepared to handle. The concept of all encompassing parties doesn't scale; we need a way for people to show their support for very targeted movements like PP without feeling they're wasting their vote away.

m_st 15y ago
Very true indeed. Personally I could never join one of the many parties as they all have some opinions I just can't agree with. This really makes voting quite hard. In Switzerland we now have http://smartvote.ch/?lang=en_GB http://smartvote.ch/?lang=en_GB were you fill out a questionnaire and then get some politicians matching your profile. While certainly not perfect, it is already a good start.
- FrojoS 15y ago
  Something like this exists in Germany, too for parties: www.wahl-o-mat.de A possible solution, to the problem you describe might be Liquid Democracy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_democracy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_democracy
skeptical 15y ago
huh... doesn't it shows the opposite of that? I mean, if the pirate party was able to achieve a remarkable success doesn't that mean that the political system works? At least in the german case. Most of the characters involved in the politics game are not doing their job, I guess that's what you mean?
- icebraining 15y ago
  I think they achieved that result despite the problems with the political system. Remember this was just a local election; while getting a seat in Berlin is obviously important, it's not exactly the national parliament. My guess is that people felt this election was unimportant enough that they could 'waste' a vote making a point.