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> if a garage presents your vehicle for inspection. That's the key. Many people don't bring their cars to a garage for inspection. Especially if they don't hav

> if a garage presents your vehicle for inspection. That's the key. Many people don't bring their cars to a garage for inspection. Especially if they don't have annual maintenance intervals which typically end on the same month as the HU intervals. > The price for the check is fixed. You only fail the check, if there are crucial safety issues or oil leaks I don't doubt that. The question is whether the dealership will inspect your car before your official inspection or not. > You do also insult any inspector (DEKRA, GTU or TÜV) by promoting such implications. ??? I am only saying that dealerships are inspecting cars before official inspector sees them, and the rate of pre-inspected cars differs from brand to brand. I don't blame DEKRA, GTU or TÜV for faulty inspections. I blame them for not disclosing the bias in their statistics.

tommyage 5y ago
> > if a garage presents your vehicle for inspection. > That's the key. Many people don't bring their cars to a garage for inspection. Especially if they don't have annual maintenance intervals which typically end on the same month as the HU intervals. Annual intervals ensure an easy TÜV inspection, but it is differs entirely from the raised point. You can hire a garage to present your car - no need for an annual maintenance contract. No need for intervention by the car manufacture. And you shortend the quotation: Why are you explicitly calling german brands out for: "the average german branded car owner who signed an annual maintenance contract" and why are you omitting my point, that this can be done with any brand and any age of vehicle? I would claim that the luxury brands have _less_ annual maintenance contracts by private households. You need to provide sources for your claims - I just pointed out, that there is no correlation with your claim and it is a biased assumption. > > The price for the check is fixed. You only fail the check, if there are crucial safety issues or oil leaks > I don't doubt that. The question is whether the dealership will inspect your car before your official inspection or not. Any garage can inspect your car - regardless of age. Your opinion is only proven if tesla owners hire less garages then any other brand. And then the age of the car is still neglected. > > You do also insult any inspector (DEKRA, GTU or TÜV) by promoting such implications. > ??? I am only saying that dealerships are inspecting cars before official inspector sees them, and the rate of pre-inspected cars differs from brand to brand. I don't blame DEKRA, GTU or TÜV for faulty inspections. I blame them for not disclosing the bias in their statistics. Inspectors treat any vehicle the same. That means that any garage is able to ensure a successful inspection. There is no dependency on the dealership. Additionally, the owner is responsible for preparing the car. Since we are referring to fairly new cars: Depending on the kind of purchase the owner _is required_ to present his car at a garage in an interval. Otherwise he will loose his warranty or additional insurances. And my personal opinion: Anybody who repaired any car on its own will agree: teslas quality is ridicolous cheap.

tommyage 5y ago

> > if a garage presents your vehicle for inspection. > That's the key. Many people don't bring their cars to a garage for inspection. Especially if they don't have annual maintenance intervals which typically end on the same month as the HU intervals. Annual intervals ensure an easy TÜV inspection, but it is differs entirely from the raised point. You can hire a garage to present your car - no need for an annual maintenance contract. No need for intervention by the car manufacture. And you shortend the quotation: Why are you explicitly calling german brands out for: "the average german branded car owner who signed an annual maintenance contract" and why are you omitting my point, that this can be done with any brand and any age of vehicle? I would claim that the luxury brands have _less_ annual maintenance contracts by private households. You need to provide sources for your claims - I just pointed out, that there is no correlation with your claim and it is a biased assumption. > > The price for the check is fixed. You only fail the check, if there are crucial safety issues or oil leaks > I don't doubt that. The question is whether the dealership will inspect your car before your official inspection or not. Any garage can inspect your car - regardless of age. Your opinion is only proven if tesla owners hire less garages then any other brand. And then the age of the car is still neglected. > > You do also insult any inspector (DEKRA, GTU or TÜV) by promoting such implications. > ??? I am only saying that dealerships are inspecting cars before official inspector sees them, and the rate of pre-inspected cars differs from brand to brand. I don't blame DEKRA, GTU or TÜV for faulty inspections. I blame them for not disclosing the bias in their statistics. Inspectors treat any vehicle the same. That means that any garage is able to ensure a successful inspection. There is no dependency on the dealership. Additionally, the owner is responsible for preparing the car. Since we are referring to fairly new cars: Depending on the kind of purchase the owner _is required_ to present his car at a garage in an interval. Otherwise he will loose his warranty or additional insurances. And my personal opinion: Anybody who repaired any car on its own will agree: teslas quality is ridicolous cheap.