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> it's a sort of middle management role that a lot of people aspire to. Running a team, getting paid fairly decently. really, 7 figures a year is "getting paid

by rkk3 5y ago

> it's a sort of middle management role that a lot of people aspire to. Running a team, getting paid fairly decently. really, 7 figures a year is "getting paid fairly decently" ? MD in IB is the equivalent of "partner" in consulting, law firms etc. But the IB companies all went public so there is no controlling "partnership". Like "partner" it's the highest rung in the hierarchy and the distinction between them comes down to what team/desk/department they run & additional executive titles.

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decafninja 5y ago
Does a tech MD at an investment bank really get a seven figure compensation? Pretty sure I’m making more as a FAANGMULA company vanilla senior SWE than my old bank department’s tech MD. I know I’m definitely making considerably more than was my old D(irector) who was one level down from MD (also since departed to a FAANGMULA company and now a personal friend). Now if we’re talking about a business side MD, especially a trader, then that’s a whole different story.
- rkk3 5y ago
  > Does a tech MD at an investment bank really get a seven figure compensation? Some desks make more of less, but why wouldn't they? MD's at Goldman used to even have a minimum salary of 500k[1] and bonus is generally a multiple of that... I'm not sure what you mean specifically by "tech" but Quant Strat, HFT etc are extremely valuable. > Pretty sure I’m making more as a FAANGMULA company You very well could be, big tech has been on a tear for a decade so equity compensation is ridiculous. [1] https://archive.ph/H9eKK/again?url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/goldman-promotes-465-managing-directors-as-it-looks-to-regain-its-luster-11573758020 https://archive.ph/H9eKK/again?url=https://www.wsj.com/artic...
  - decafninja 5y ago
    I was referring to tech as in general SWEs doing line of business work, etc. which would account for the majority of SWEs at banks. I would put stuff like quants and HFT at a bank in a more rarified, elite, niche - perhaps on a tier similar to the elite hedge funds like Citadel. They’re not what I would think of first when describing “tech at a bank/finance” though. But definitely would agree their prestige and compensation is much higher.
    - rkk3 5y ago
      > I was referring to tech as in general SWEs doing line of business work, etc. which would account for the majority of SWEs at banks. I wasn't on that side of the business & it was a long time ago... If they used the same level system as the front office, I would assume you would just have considerably less MD's and the pay would be at the lower end of the range but that would still put you at or close to 7 figures.

by rkk3 5y ago

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decafninja 5y ago

Does a tech MD at an investment bank really get a seven figure compensation? Pretty sure I’m making more as a FAANGMULA company vanilla senior SWE than my old bank department’s tech MD. I know I’m definitely making considerably more than was my old D(irector) who was one level down from MD (also since departed to a FAANGMULA company and now a personal friend). Now if we’re talking about a business side MD, especially a trader, then that’s a whole different story.

rkk3 5y ago
> Does a tech MD at an investment bank really get a seven figure compensation? Some desks make more of less, but why wouldn't they? MD's at Goldman used to even have a minimum salary of 500k[1] and bonus is generally a multiple of that... I'm not sure what you mean specifically by "tech" but Quant Strat, HFT etc are extremely valuable. > Pretty sure I’m making more as a FAANGMULA company You very well could be, big tech has been on a tear for a decade so equity compensation is ridiculous. [1] https://archive.ph/H9eKK/again?url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/goldman-promotes-465-managing-directors-as-it-looks-to-regain-its-luster-11573758020 https://archive.ph/H9eKK/again?url=https://www.wsj.com/artic...
- decafninja 5y ago
  I was referring to tech as in general SWEs doing line of business work, etc. which would account for the majority of SWEs at banks. I would put stuff like quants and HFT at a bank in a more rarified, elite, niche - perhaps on a tier similar to the elite hedge funds like Citadel. They’re not what I would think of first when describing “tech at a bank/finance” though. But definitely would agree their prestige and compensation is much higher.
  - rkk3 5y ago
    > I was referring to tech as in general SWEs doing line of business work, etc. which would account for the majority of SWEs at banks. I wasn't on that side of the business & it was a long time ago... If they used the same level system as the front office, I would assume you would just have considerably less MD's and the pay would be at the lower end of the range but that would still put you at or close to 7 figures.