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I can say from experience that skilled migrants are wanted only in very specific domains like IT, engineering and some areas of medicine, etc. If you’re not act

by blub 5y ago

I can say from experience that skilled migrants are wanted only in very specific domains like IT, engineering and some areas of medicine, etc. If you’re not active in those domains, you will not get a job according to your qualifications even with good German skills. I have many acquaintances that work e.g. in IT and while they don’t have problems finding a job, their spouses are facing serious difficulties leading to e.g. changing fields (with the associated loss of experience/earning potential), spending years getting another college diploma or settling for less. And I’m talking mainly about Europeans here, with already recognised diplomas and full rights on the labour market. With that out of the way, I’m puzzled by the premise of the article. How do countries become unable to satisfy local demand through local supply? Something must be fundamentally wrong with the market. In medical care for example the conditions are bad and the salaries aren’t good. And while in IT the average salary’s good compared to many other countries, it’s nowhere near what one can get in e.g. Zurich, London or the US. Software developer is just another middle class job. This lack of applicants seems to be at least partly driven by insufficient remuneration. Not surprising that the politicians and companies would rather import labour rather than developing the local market and motivating the locals.

germanyexposed 5y ago
netsharc 5y ago
At least on paper, if you have a college degree and a job offer, you can get an EU residence permit (people use the term "visa" but officially visas are just for visitors staying for a maximum of 3 months, if you want to stay longer you'll get a residence permits, in the first few years they are limited to 2 year increments): https://visaguide.world/europe/eu-blue-card/ https://visaguide.world/europe/eu-blue-card/ . I know a non-EU-ian who got one for Germany because she got a job writing English descriptions of items for an online store..
diego_moita 5y ago
> only in very specific domains like IT, engineering and some areas of medicine Because these are globalized domains. The expertise necessary to work in these areas is very much the same in Germany, Latin America or Asia. Therefore any immigrant can do them anywhere. OTOH, the required knowledge to work in law, business and other related areas are dependent on the place it is applied.
aga98mtl 5y ago
> With that out of the way, I’m puzzled by the premise of the article. How do countries become unable to satisfy local demand through local supply? The baby-boomer* generation is much bigger than other generation. Their retirement is not met with the same amount of young worker coming into the job market. Businesses need to produce just as much if not more as before. So basically we need to import the kids we did not have 20 to 30 years ago to maintain the same amount of workers. The same thing is happening in many developed countries. * Germany's baby-boomers are younger than the one in the USA or Canada https://www.populationpyramid.net/germany/2019/ https://www.populationpyramid.net/germany/2019/
- yobbo 5y ago
  > Their retirement is not met with the same amount of young worker At retirement age, no one is active in IT at that level. For many decades, IT/engineering has been a bad career choice, and this perception has become part of the culture value system.
yobbo 5y ago
> How do countries become unable to satisfy local demand through local supply? Demand and supply are measured in units of money, and when they don't match, transactions don't take place.

by blub 5y ago

germanyexposed 5y ago

netsharc 5y ago

At least on paper, if you have a college degree and a job offer, you can get an EU residence permit (people use the term "visa" but officially visas are just for visitors staying for a maximum of 3 months, if you want to stay longer you'll get a residence permits, in the first few years they are limited to 2 year increments): https://visaguide.world/europe/eu-blue-card/ https://visaguide.world/europe/eu-blue-card/ . I know a non-EU-ian who got one for Germany because she got a job writing English descriptions of items for an online store..

diego_moita 5y ago

> only in very specific domains like IT, engineering and some areas of medicine Because these are globalized domains. The expertise necessary to work in these areas is very much the same in Germany, Latin America or Asia. Therefore any immigrant can do them anywhere. OTOH, the required knowledge to work in law, business and other related areas are dependent on the place it is applied.

aga98mtl 5y ago

> With that out of the way, I’m puzzled by the premise of the article. How do countries become unable to satisfy local demand through local supply? The baby-boomer* generation is much bigger than other generation. Their retirement is not met with the same amount of young worker coming into the job market. Businesses need to produce just as much if not more as before. So basically we need to import the kids we did not have 20 to 30 years ago to maintain the same amount of workers. The same thing is happening in many developed countries. * Germany's baby-boomers are younger than the one in the USA or Canada https://www.populationpyramid.net/germany/2019/ https://www.populationpyramid.net/germany/2019/

yobbo 5y ago
> Their retirement is not met with the same amount of young worker At retirement age, no one is active in IT at that level. For many decades, IT/engineering has been a bad career choice, and this perception has become part of the culture value system.

yobbo 5y ago

> How do countries become unable to satisfy local demand through local supply? Demand and supply are measured in units of money, and when they don't match, transactions don't take place.