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I know this is the classic thinking about these things. But working in a company where they keep bringing in new employees that are rude (the "strong woman" tem

I know this is the classic thinking about these things. But working in a company where they keep bringing in new employees that are rude (the "strong woman" template), it has given me something to think about. It's just not a given that reducing out-groups makes a company culture better. It can make it worse to include those groups sometimes. It's just hard to know before. But it's morally right to not exclude people so I'm of course supporting that. Just saying it may not be a sign of a good culture even though we may think it is.

bigbillheck 5y ago
> keep bringing in new employees that are rude (the "strong woman" template), I've been working professionally for decades and I don't think I've seen this 'template' at all. And to be honest I'm wondering if this is a case of the 'same behavior is perceived as ruder in women than in men' effect.
- wreath 5y ago
  I had the misfortune of interacting with what OP is calling "strong woman template" and they were as pleasant as any men with "tough guy" attitude. Rude, obnoxious, entitled, unkind, and always on edge. At least these are the common attributes I found common in people I thought of when seeing "strong woman template"
- peakaboo 5y ago
  It's pretty much in every tv show if you watch TV. Strong woman = rude woman. Which I think is so stupid. It's not strong to be rude to people. It's just bad behavior and turns you into a bad person. It has gotten to the point that we now have "strong wimen" insulting men everywhere but if the tables are turned, men cannot be rude to wimen because that's completely unacceptable.
late2part 5y ago
Whoah there tiger. I'm a white cisgendered able-bodied conservative male and I think you're probably an unhappy person.. You are likely sexist with prejudice about normative gender roles. Would you call a man doing the same thing a 'strong man?' Or are you referring to the southpark version of strong woman?

bigbillheck 5y ago

> keep bringing in new employees that are rude (the "strong woman" template), I've been working professionally for decades and I don't think I've seen this 'template' at all. And to be honest I'm wondering if this is a case of the 'same behavior is perceived as ruder in women than in men' effect.

wreath 5y ago
I had the misfortune of interacting with what OP is calling "strong woman template" and they were as pleasant as any men with "tough guy" attitude. Rude, obnoxious, entitled, unkind, and always on edge. At least these are the common attributes I found common in people I thought of when seeing "strong woman template"
peakaboo 5y ago
It's pretty much in every tv show if you watch TV. Strong woman = rude woman. Which I think is so stupid. It's not strong to be rude to people. It's just bad behavior and turns you into a bad person. It has gotten to the point that we now have "strong wimen" insulting men everywhere but if the tables are turned, men cannot be rude to wimen because that's completely unacceptable.

late2part 5y ago

Whoah there tiger. I'm a white cisgendered able-bodied conservative male and I think you're probably an unhappy person.. You are likely sexist with prejudice about normative gender roles. Would you call a man doing the same thing a 'strong man?' Or are you referring to the southpark version of strong woman?