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- Veserv 5y agoThank you for the reply. I was actually only expecting an answer to 1 or 2 of them rather than all of them. 2 and 3 were more questions on the business side of (expenditure on staff finding exploits / expected number to find per year) rather than raw expenses and 4 was more a monetary return rather than a ROI, but thank you for all the answers nonetheless. Just for clarification, am I correctly understanding your answer to 1b as the price of a zero-click iOS exploit being ~$4M in contrast to my stated $1-2M? If so, I will not openly contest that claim here and thank you for your time. Anybody reading to this point can substitute my earlier claims for $4M if so.
- jancsika 5y agoI think it's funny that you were able to exploit someone working in the industry into giving up information they shouldn't have merely by stating your speculation as fact. Who needs 0-days when you have Cunningham's Law[1]? I'm just trolling, but it apparently did happen here. :) 1: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cunningham%27s_Law https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cunningham%27s_Law
- lossolo 5y agoAnyone has copy of the answers? Seems that it was interesting but was edited.
- Veserv 5y agoFrom memory it was approximately: 1a. $2M for something. Maybe a messenger/important app? 1b. $3.5-4M for zero click in default install (sandbox escape + local privilege escalation) 2. $20M for high level individual talent for a firm like NSO with a $250M revenue/$150M expenses. 3. $400k for a senior engineer. $250k-500k spot bonus for a person in the team who finds a zero-click. Some other words. 4. 500% to 1000%. Some other words. 5. 0-2 zero-click on-hand or maybe per year. 1-3 lesser ones in messaging/browsers/etc I think? Some other words. 6. The answer to 5 is sparse enough that statistics do not really apply. 7. 7-15 months.