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> What is worse, the constitution of Finland is currently interpreted by a former board member of Finnish Communist party, one Dr. Martin Scheisse. So everythin

by terom 5y ago

> What is worse, the constitution of Finland is currently interpreted by a former board member of Finnish Communist party, one Dr. Martin Scheisse. So everything goes, Soviet-Style mock lawsuits of MPs and China-Style vaccination passports. Wow, this is the first time I've ever run into this level of perversion of the truth about Finnish politics anywhere (outside of Twitter). I assume that by the degrading "Dr. Martin Scheisse" you are referring to Martin Scheinin[1], a professor on international law. While it seems like he does publish some opinions about constitutional law [2] and topics including COVID-19 [3] with a pro-lockdown stance, I don't think he has anything to do with the actual political body responsible for interpretating the Finnish constitution [4] - he's certainly not listed as a member. The Perustuslakivaliokunta has actually taken quite a limited stance on COVID-19 things, e.g. blocking the proposed curfew measures in spring 2021, and the (currently on hold, presumably to be entirely scrapped or become optional) Finnish COVID-19 passport scheme is not on the strictest side of even EU standards (e.g. artists and staff working at the venues are excluded). Not sure what exactly you're referring to with the soviet-style mock lawsuits, there have been many politically relevant lawsuits going on recently. But it does seem like you've picked up some delusions somewhere, and may want to refrain from spreading such false truths. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Scheinin https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Scheinin [2] https://perustuslakiblogi.wordpress.com/category/kirjoittajat/martin-scheinin/ https://perustuslakiblogi.wordpress.com/category/kirjoittaja... [3] https://www.iltalehti.fi/koronavirus/a/6a55281c-4f12-46d6-be17-f9ee97637f12 https://www.iltalehti.fi/koronavirus/a/6a55281c-4f12-46d6-be... [4] https://www.eduskunta.fi/FI/valiokunnat/perustuslakivaliokunta/Sivut/default.aspx https://www.eduskunta.fi/FI/valiokunnat/perustuslakivaliokun...

terom 5y ago
> I don't think he has anything to do with the actual political body responsible for interpretating the Finnish constitution [4] - he's certainly not listed as a member. The term "anything" is not quite accurate, based on just a quick Google it does seem like Martin Scheinin has been the author of some expert opinions on a variety of topics as taken into consideration by the Perustuslakivaliokunta. But "the constitution of Finland is currently interpreted by [...] Martin Scheinin" is a fairly misleading way of stating this - the Perustuslakivaliokunta does the interpretation. Re the "a former board member of Finnish Communist party" part, this also has a grain of truth to it, but quoting the quoted official police report [1] (published by an news site explicitly affiliated with the political party associated with the defendant in this case), while they were indeed a member of the communist part committee in the 1980's, they have since explicitly disavowed this and changed their stance. > They just selected new Minister of Social Services, who was most vile pro-soviet communist in the 1970s. While this also has a grain of truth to it related to Aki Linden's very early political career as a student [2] (published by a news media associated with a competing political party), I would consider this excessive hyperbole. Finnish politics today are not the same as they were in the 1970s, even if some of the politicians have grown up during those years. [1] https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/halla-aho-muistutti-tutkintapyyntoja-tehtailevan-martin-scheininin-taustasta-kommunistien-keskuskomiteassa-scheinin-teki-tutkintapyynnon-nain-asiassa-kavi/ https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/halla-aho-muistutti-tutkintapyy... [2] https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/nyt-han-on-sdpn-ehdokas-1975-rakennettiin-vallankumousta-ja-kommunismia/ https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/nyt-han-on-sdpn-ehdokas-1975-ra...

by terom 5y ago

terom 5y ago

> I don't think he has anything to do with the actual political body responsible for interpretating the Finnish constitution [4] - he's certainly not listed as a member. The term "anything" is not quite accurate, based on just a quick Google it does seem like Martin Scheinin has been the author of some expert opinions on a variety of topics as taken into consideration by the Perustuslakivaliokunta. But "the constitution of Finland is currently interpreted by [...] Martin Scheinin" is a fairly misleading way of stating this - the Perustuslakivaliokunta does the interpretation. Re the "a former board member of Finnish Communist party" part, this also has a grain of truth to it, but quoting the quoted official police report [1] (published by an news site explicitly affiliated with the political party associated with the defendant in this case), while they were indeed a member of the communist part committee in the 1980's, they have since explicitly disavowed this and changed their stance. > They just selected new Minister of Social Services, who was most vile pro-soviet communist in the 1970s. While this also has a grain of truth to it related to Aki Linden's very early political career as a student [2] (published by a news media associated with a competing political party), I would consider this excessive hyperbole. Finnish politics today are not the same as they were in the 1970s, even if some of the politicians have grown up during those years. [1] https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/halla-aho-muistutti-tutkintapyyntoja-tehtailevan-martin-scheininin-taustasta-kommunistien-keskuskomiteassa-scheinin-teki-tutkintapyynnon-nain-asiassa-kavi/ https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/halla-aho-muistutti-tutkintapyy... [2] https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/nyt-han-on-sdpn-ehdokas-1975-rakennettiin-vallankumousta-ja-kommunismia/ https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/nyt-han-on-sdpn-ehdokas-1975-ra...