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> How are you seeing ads in Brave I don’t, I’ve never used Brave. From https://brave.com/brave-rewards/ https://brave.com/brave-rewards/ Brave Ads do not

by bfung 5y ago

> How are you seeing ads in Brave I don’t, I’ve never used Brave. From https://brave.com/brave-rewards/ https://brave.com/brave-rewards/ Brave Ads do not replace current web page ads. By default, Brave blocks privacy-invading web ads and trackers that are embedded in page content. Joining Brave Rewards and viewing Brave Ads does not affect your current blocking settings for each website you visit. The ads you see as part of Brave Rewards are shown separately from your browsing experience and are not the same as the invasive, performance-sapping ads embedded in websites. But I can already block ads with uMatrix and other ad blockers. So why do I need another browser that does essentially the same, but adds more complexity to the mix, potentially more browser bloat? So instead of funneling ad spend to google, it’s funneled to Brave - but that doesn’t really make a difference to me as a consumer. I can donate or buy products of creators I want to support w/o dealing in BAT.

omneity 5y ago
> I don’t, I’ve never used Brave. In this case your entire comment is pure FUD and a cheap shot at Brave. I’ve been using Brave for 2 years, never saw a single ad.
- sodality2 5y ago
  Brave does have a feature that displays ads in exchange for BAT, so it's not a cheap shot. https://brave.com/brave-rewards/ https://brave.com/brave-rewards/
  - omneity 5y ago
    It is a cheap shot because you have to explicitly go out of your way to enable it. There’s no conceivable way a Brave user sees ads without very explicitly digging through the settings and enabling them. Which leads me to wonder, have you yourself ever used Brave?
    - codetrotter 5y ago
      I use Brave. I have the rewards enabled. When you open a new tab, does it not show an ad for you as the wallpaper of the new tab? I thought that space would show an ad regardless of rewards are on or off. The ads that I get that I know are because of rewards is the desktop notifications that it pushes, that you can click on. Only ever clicked on a couple of them at most I think, but still have them enabled because I think the idea of Brave rewards and BAT is interesting. Also, I no longer remember but, when you install Brave it does ask whether you want to enable Brave rewards or not, didn’t it? In which case I think at least some people might be clicking yes without meaning to/understanding. But in my case it was intentional anyways.
      - mikro2nd 5y ago
        I use Brave. I don't use Rewards. When I open a new tab I see a wallpaper, a randomly chosen picture, often a landscape scene, never an ad.
  - tragictrash 5y ago
    Negative, Ghost Rider. Disingenuous at best.
- bfung 5y ago
  > never saw a single ad That cannot be true; brave cannot block first party ads. I’m saying something very simple: 1. Brave is a browser like any other, in fact, built on top of chromium. 2. The ad blocking can be achieved with ad blockers using normal browsers. There’s ways to block cookies too. 3. Brave has presets for 1&2. Additionally, Brave adds on top more opt-in ads using BAT as an incentive. Hence, use a normal browser with ad blocking, not chromium based, and FLOC is a non issue. Don’t use chrome, don’t use brave, no need to bother with this article about floc or whatever google api.
  - hyperbovine 5y ago
    > That cannot be true; brave cannot block first party ads. Do all sites on the internet employ first party ads? No? Then it can be true.
    - vntok 5y ago
      It cannot be true that you never saw a single ad because brave cannot block first party ads and the probability that you never ever visited a site that uses 1st party ads is basically zero.
      - hyperbovine 5y ago
        “Basically zero” is not the same thing as zero. “Probably untrue” is not the same thing as “not true”.
        vntok 5y ago
        This very site uses 1st party ads, so we know for certain that the probability I was talking about is actually zero and not merely basically zero.
    - HWR_14 5y ago
      >> That cannot be true; brave cannot block first party ads. > Do all sites on the internet employ first party ads? No? Then it can be true. Except we know you go to at least one website with first party ads - HN.
udbhavs 5y ago
Key word: joining Brave Rewards

by bfung 5y ago

omneity 5y ago

> I don’t, I’ve never used Brave. In this case your entire comment is pure FUD and a cheap shot at Brave. I’ve been using Brave for 2 years, never saw a single ad.

sodality2 5y ago
Brave does have a feature that displays ads in exchange for BAT, so it's not a cheap shot. https://brave.com/brave-rewards/ https://brave.com/brave-rewards/
- omneity 5y ago
  It is a cheap shot because you have to explicitly go out of your way to enable it. There’s no conceivable way a Brave user sees ads without very explicitly digging through the settings and enabling them. Which leads me to wonder, have you yourself ever used Brave?
  - codetrotter 5y ago
    I use Brave. I have the rewards enabled. When you open a new tab, does it not show an ad for you as the wallpaper of the new tab? I thought that space would show an ad regardless of rewards are on or off. The ads that I get that I know are because of rewards is the desktop notifications that it pushes, that you can click on. Only ever clicked on a couple of them at most I think, but still have them enabled because I think the idea of Brave rewards and BAT is interesting. Also, I no longer remember but, when you install Brave it does ask whether you want to enable Brave rewards or not, didn’t it? In which case I think at least some people might be clicking yes without meaning to/understanding. But in my case it was intentional anyways.
    - mikro2nd 5y ago
      I use Brave. I don't use Rewards. When I open a new tab I see a wallpaper, a randomly chosen picture, often a landscape scene, never an ad.
- tragictrash 5y ago
  Negative, Ghost Rider. Disingenuous at best.
bfung 5y ago
> never saw a single ad That cannot be true; brave cannot block first party ads. I’m saying something very simple: 1. Brave is a browser like any other, in fact, built on top of chromium. 2. The ad blocking can be achieved with ad blockers using normal browsers. There’s ways to block cookies too. 3. Brave has presets for 1&2. Additionally, Brave adds on top more opt-in ads using BAT as an incentive. Hence, use a normal browser with ad blocking, not chromium based, and FLOC is a non issue. Don’t use chrome, don’t use brave, no need to bother with this article about floc or whatever google api.
- hyperbovine 5y ago
  > That cannot be true; brave cannot block first party ads. Do all sites on the internet employ first party ads? No? Then it can be true.
  - vntok 5y ago
    It cannot be true that you never saw a single ad because brave cannot block first party ads and the probability that you never ever visited a site that uses 1st party ads is basically zero.
    - hyperbovine 5y ago
      “Basically zero” is not the same thing as zero. “Probably untrue” is not the same thing as “not true”.
      - vntok 5y ago
        This very site uses 1st party ads, so we know for certain that the probability I was talking about is actually zero and not merely basically zero.
  - HWR_14 5y ago
    >> That cannot be true; brave cannot block first party ads. > Do all sites on the internet employ first party ads? No? Then it can be true. Except we know you go to at least one website with first party ads - HN.

udbhavs 5y ago

Key word: joining Brave Rewards