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Well, i don't think that's fair. Clickbait isn't against even the terms of service for TikTok and it certainly is not illegal activity. Scams on the other hand

Well, i don't think that's fair. Clickbait isn't against even the terms of service for TikTok and it certainly is not illegal activity. Scams on the other hand are (at least a big subset), commercial, which cause financial damage and most scams are codified to be illegal actions in law.

CyberRabbi 5y ago
I’m not sure if you intentionally tried to move the goal post but spam != scams
- DisjointedHunt 5y ago
  What do you think it means? As someone who's worked with people in spam fighting, i'd like to understand a different perspective if you have one. Low quality clickbait is almost always tied to a commercial end, be it ad click fraud, ad view farming or malware/phishing on the extreme end of the spectrum. Anything policy violating that's considered "Spam" is likely to be tied to illegal activity 9 times out of 10.
  - CyberRabbi 5y ago
    > Low quality clickbait is almost always tied to a commercial end, Not everything with a commercial end is a scam. I get spam for legitimate products or services all the time. It’s spam because they are abusing a communication channel as an advertising channel, not necessarily because they are trying to scam anyone.
    - DisjointedHunt 5y ago
      So once again, let’s speak about what the issue is not what it is not. The argument here isn’t that there are no corner cases where legitimate businesses with 401ks tax returns and all that send you too many communications. On twitter specifically, low quality clickbait is almost always tied to policy violating , if not illegal activity. If you can’t even admit that, well, you should really engage in conversation with more good faith or more expertise than you have at present.
      - CyberRabbi 5y ago
        > On twitter specifically, low quality clickbait is almost always tied to policy violating , if not illegal activity. What is your evidence of that? The OP was about spam not scams. I already identified that you were moving the goalpost or unintentionally projecting a different issue onto this issue. My point is that spam on Twitter is to be expected. Taking Twitter seriously as a discussion platform is as naive as taking Tik Tok seriously as an video education platform.
        DisjointedHunt 5y ago
        Your point is you think you understand anything about spam without working a day in your life in the field. My statements are backed by experience.

CyberRabbi 5y ago

I’m not sure if you intentionally tried to move the goal post but spam != scams

DisjointedHunt 5y ago
What do you think it means? As someone who's worked with people in spam fighting, i'd like to understand a different perspective if you have one. Low quality clickbait is almost always tied to a commercial end, be it ad click fraud, ad view farming or malware/phishing on the extreme end of the spectrum. Anything policy violating that's considered "Spam" is likely to be tied to illegal activity 9 times out of 10.
- CyberRabbi 5y ago
  > Low quality clickbait is almost always tied to a commercial end, Not everything with a commercial end is a scam. I get spam for legitimate products or services all the time. It’s spam because they are abusing a communication channel as an advertising channel, not necessarily because they are trying to scam anyone.
  - DisjointedHunt 5y ago
    So once again, let’s speak about what the issue is not what it is not. The argument here isn’t that there are no corner cases where legitimate businesses with 401ks tax returns and all that send you too many communications. On twitter specifically, low quality clickbait is almost always tied to policy violating , if not illegal activity. If you can’t even admit that, well, you should really engage in conversation with more good faith or more expertise than you have at present.
    - CyberRabbi 5y ago
      > On twitter specifically, low quality clickbait is almost always tied to policy violating , if not illegal activity. What is your evidence of that? The OP was about spam not scams. I already identified that you were moving the goalpost or unintentionally projecting a different issue onto this issue. My point is that spam on Twitter is to be expected. Taking Twitter seriously as a discussion platform is as naive as taking Tik Tok seriously as an video education platform.
      - DisjointedHunt 5y ago
        Your point is you think you understand anything about spam without working a day in your life in the field. My statements are backed by experience.