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You may think of them as personal computers but most people don’t. And all of the connotations that people associate with PCs eg. unreliability, viruses, malwa

You may think of them as personal computers but most people don’t. And all of the connotations that people associate with PCs eg. unreliability, viruses, malware, constant updates and complexity are not something that people are in a hurry to bring across to the mobile world. Then again we can look to the market for guidance which is that side loading has in no way impacted the success of iOS devices.

friedman23 5y ago
> unreliability, viruses, malware Problems from the early 2000s that don't exist in the same capacity anymore. In fact, I would say getting scammed by an app from the apple app store is more likely than downloading a virus in 2022. > constant updates That's a mobile problem.
- x0x0 5y ago
  > Problems from the early 2000s that don't exist in the same capacity anymore. Nonsense. I've cleaned malware off of employee laptops within the last 2 years. And off family members' computers within the last 3 months.
  - keleftheriou 5y ago
    Sideloading doesn’t imply that app isolation (sandboxing) is also going away, nor does it imply that any app would ever be able to trick the user into running it with escalated privileges (sudo/root) as is the case on most laptops. So this malware that you had to clean off of those laptops would still not be possible, even for sideloaded apps.
- threeseed 5y ago
  > I would say getting scammed by an app from the apple app store is more likely than downloading a virus in 2022 And you would be wrong.
  - philistine 5y ago
    Since you only provide opinion, and not facts, I'll say you're wrong until you can prove otherwise. Everyone knows the App Store is full of scams and no one does anything about it. With viruses, at least the OS vendors are getting rid of them.
  - vorpalhex 5y ago
    Yeah it's not like there were 20 wordle clones on the front page of the App store, one with a $400 IAP.
- tomjen3 5y ago
  >Problems from the early 2000s that don't exist in the same capacity anymore. In fact, I would say getting scammed by an app from the apple app store is more likely than downloading a virus in 2022. This Christmas I had to uninstall adware from my Grandmothers phone that was filling the notification bar with ads. Last time I visited my other grandparents I had to warn my grandmother not to click on an offer to install device drivers, that had somehow shown up as an add in a Microsoft Game.
badsectoracula 5y ago
> You may think of them as personal computers but most people don’t. And language such as "side loading" helps that too.
fulafel 5y ago
This is partly terminology confusion (in English) - the concept of a personal computer is not same thing as a Windows PC, the latter is just a bad implementation of the former and indeed usually not loved by its user.

friedman23 5y ago

> unreliability, viruses, malware Problems from the early 2000s that don't exist in the same capacity anymore. In fact, I would say getting scammed by an app from the apple app store is more likely than downloading a virus in 2022. > constant updates That's a mobile problem.

x0x0 5y ago
> Problems from the early 2000s that don't exist in the same capacity anymore. Nonsense. I've cleaned malware off of employee laptops within the last 2 years. And off family members' computers within the last 3 months.
- keleftheriou 5y ago
  Sideloading doesn’t imply that app isolation (sandboxing) is also going away, nor does it imply that any app would ever be able to trick the user into running it with escalated privileges (sudo/root) as is the case on most laptops. So this malware that you had to clean off of those laptops would still not be possible, even for sideloaded apps.
threeseed 5y ago
> I would say getting scammed by an app from the apple app store is more likely than downloading a virus in 2022 And you would be wrong.
- philistine 5y ago
  Since you only provide opinion, and not facts, I'll say you're wrong until you can prove otherwise. Everyone knows the App Store is full of scams and no one does anything about it. With viruses, at least the OS vendors are getting rid of them.
- vorpalhex 5y ago
  Yeah it's not like there were 20 wordle clones on the front page of the App store, one with a $400 IAP.
tomjen3 5y ago
>Problems from the early 2000s that don't exist in the same capacity anymore. In fact, I would say getting scammed by an app from the apple app store is more likely than downloading a virus in 2022. This Christmas I had to uninstall adware from my Grandmothers phone that was filling the notification bar with ads. Last time I visited my other grandparents I had to warn my grandmother not to click on an offer to install device drivers, that had somehow shown up as an add in a Microsoft Game.

badsectoracula 5y ago

> You may think of them as personal computers but most people don’t. And language such as "side loading" helps that too.

fulafel 5y ago

This is partly terminology confusion (in English) - the concept of a personal computer is not same thing as a Windows PC, the latter is just a bad implementation of the former and indeed usually not loved by its user.