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You really like the idea of a company controlling property you own after you bought it??? Like if its optional don’t change the defaults. The issue is starting
by anfilt 5y ago
You really like the idea of a company controlling property you own after you bought it??? Like if its optional don’t change the defaults.
The issue is starting from the boot-rom and up apple is effectively using cryptography to retain the property right of exclusion when it comes to what code can run on that ARM cpu. Effectively you have to ask apple for approval of any code that will run on your own hardware. If they sign the code they allow it run if they don’t its excluded from running. If you have to keep asking a 3rd party to do something with something you bought you don't fully own it.
The thing is normally a seller wishing to retain some rights to real or tangible property would normally require a legal contract between the buyer. Here however apple is using cryptography to bypass traditional legal means. You can buy an iPhone, iPad without signing any contract. Yet this effectively retained control of the hardware still exists. You can’t just buy the hardware and throw linux or android on it short of finding a weakness in how code is loaded.
- School-Cotton 5y ago> You really like the idea of a company controlling property you own after you bought it??? If I didn’t, I wouldn’t buy an iPhone. What’s the problem?
- immibis 5y agoVendor lock-in
- i_like_apis 5y ago> You really like the idea of a company controlling property you own after you bought it??? > right of exclusion when it comes to what code can run on that ARM cpu Yes I like it for the phone. The walled garden has very little malware and has high quality apps. I am never pestered to install crapware or malware and I don't have to be paranoid about it. You can still run your own development software on these machines, and software distributed in controlled channels outside of the store. The controls are reasonably convenient and necessary to keep unwanted software out. Compare it to Android Play Store or much worse the Galaxy store situation. The grass is much greener in the walled garden. For the Mac, it's a different story, you can and should be able to run whatever you want on it. But iPhone as a product is a well tended garden (controlled but quite wide and powerful) and I can appreciate that.
- anfilt 5y agoIf its optional dont enable it/use it. I would be more concerned with companies using extralegal means to effectively infringe your property rights...
- cuddlybacon 5y agoThen shady apps will include instructions on how to bypass the security mechanisms. You already see this in Windows where game hacks (or just really shitty game mod sites) often request you disable security features to ensure they don't interfere with the hack.
- keleftheriou 5y agoThis is a big misconception. Sideloading doesn’t imply that app isolation (sandboxing) is also going away, nor does it imply that any app would ever be able to trick the user into running it with escalated privileges (sudo/root) as is the case on most computers. We’re not talking about going back to the old Windows security model where you were always one wrong click away from damaging other apps or the OS, or having your data stolen.
- i_like_apis 5y agoSounds like different issues. I love options. Well designed options are a feature, I use them. Malware/Crapware is something different, it's a contagion that should be controlled.
- anfilt 5y agoI agree that malware and such should be dealt with but at the expense of your own property rights is far too far. Secondly, if apple just allowed loading your own signing key it’s not like malware writers can sign their crap with their own key, and expect it to run.
- userbinator 5y agoWhat is malware to you, and what is malware to Apple, can and will disagree.