I don't think government spending is necessarily bad, but a lot of it is wastefully spent with little productive to show for it. People have been talking shove

I don't think government spending is necessarily bad, but a lot of it is wastefully spent with little productive to show for it. People have been talking shovel ready jobs forever. Where are the Trump infrastructure jobs? The Obama "shovel ready" jobs? Think this time will be any different? I don't. I do agree the whole system breaking (sadly) may be requirement to return to productive and rational behavior. There is entirely too much grift and performative rather then productive behavior at many levels right now and that is very hard to displace once it becomes institutionalized.