> While this really sucked, this is an exaggeration He lost 15 doctoral students/post docs who moved on in his absence, and I'm assuming his research group(s)

> While this really sucked, this is an exaggeration He lost 15 doctoral students/post docs who moved on in his absence, and I'm assuming his research group(s) imploded - do you think it's going to be easy to get those back? He has a job, but it's not at the same job he had before - for one he'll be co-authoring fewer papers. So his reputation has taken a beating in measurable ways - that's no exaggeration.