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ABUS locks should be avoided. The family that owns the company is part of the Christian Plymouth Brethren movement. Female family members are prevented from hav

by V__ 5y ago

ABUS locks should be avoided. The family that owns the company is part of the Christian Plymouth Brethren movement. Female family members are prevented from having the same participation rights, going so far as to “incentivize” them to sign contracts in which they waive their inheritance rights.

eldenbishop 5y ago
Interesting. I'd never heard of this sect. Also not allowed to live on the same land as their cattle. Always fascinating to read the rules and behaviors of these outlier communities.
monkeywork 5y ago
What alternative should be purchased instead? Lead with that information, otherwise you're not helping the person who is looking to buy a lock. I'm increasingly growing incredibly numb to calls for "don't associate with X because of Y". If you want my attention come to me with "Rather than associate with X check out Z, they offer the same service/product but aren't associated with Y". I do not have the time, energy, or interest in morally auditing every company that I do business with (like buying a freaking padlock from).
- theshrike79 5y ago
  ABLOY locks: https://www.abloy.com/global/en-us https://www.abloy.com/global/en-us They are pretty much the gold standard for locks. They are not unpickable, but take a considerable amount of skill and specialized tooling to crack. LockPickingLawyer picking an ABLOY lock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxfUmcMzx08 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxfUmcMzx08
- V__ 5y ago
  I agree with your point, however I am not an expert in locks and therefore didn't want to make a recommendation.
stmfreak 5y ago
So… how are their locks? Easy to pick? Fragile? High quality?
gumby 5y ago
Seems appropriate to me as “Abus” is French for “abuse”.
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heeen2 5y ago
Do you have a source for that?
- zinekeller 5y ago
  Unfortunately it's paywalled and in German, but according to an interview and investigation done by Süddeutsche Zeitung, they are indeed part of the Plymouth Brethen: https://www.sueddeutsche.de/wirtschaft/abus-unternehmer-religion-1.4493053 https://www.sueddeutsche.de/wirtschaft/abus-unternehmer-reli...
bongwaterblack 5y ago

by V__ 5y ago

eldenbishop 5y ago

Interesting. I'd never heard of this sect. Also not allowed to live on the same land as their cattle. Always fascinating to read the rules and behaviors of these outlier communities.

monkeywork 5y ago

What alternative should be purchased instead? Lead with that information, otherwise you're not helping the person who is looking to buy a lock. I'm increasingly growing incredibly numb to calls for "don't associate with X because of Y". If you want my attention come to me with "Rather than associate with X check out Z, they offer the same service/product but aren't associated with Y". I do not have the time, energy, or interest in morally auditing every company that I do business with (like buying a freaking padlock from).

theshrike79 5y ago
ABLOY locks: https://www.abloy.com/global/en-us https://www.abloy.com/global/en-us They are pretty much the gold standard for locks. They are not unpickable, but take a considerable amount of skill and specialized tooling to crack. LockPickingLawyer picking an ABLOY lock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxfUmcMzx08 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxfUmcMzx08
V__ 5y ago
I agree with your point, however I am not an expert in locks and therefore didn't want to make a recommendation.

stmfreak 5y ago

So… how are their locks? Easy to pick? Fragile? High quality?

gumby 5y ago

Seems appropriate to me as “Abus” is French for “abuse”.

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heeen2 5y ago

Do you have a source for that?

zinekeller 5y ago
Unfortunately it's paywalled and in German, but according to an interview and investigation done by Süddeutsche Zeitung, they are indeed part of the Plymouth Brethen: https://www.sueddeutsche.de/wirtschaft/abus-unternehmer-religion-1.4493053 https://www.sueddeutsche.de/wirtschaft/abus-unternehmer-reli...

bongwaterblack 5y ago