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The idea that people who dedicate a significant portion of their lives to developing and maintaining free software projects would be politically neutral is so f

The idea that people who dedicate a significant portion of their lives to developing and maintaining free software projects would be politically neutral is so funny to me. And yet it keeps being an assumption that is made on here.

joomooru 5y ago
Funny thing is with these "free speech" advocates, allowing hate speech (antisemitism, racism, sexism, etc.) on your platform is anything but politically neutral. It's obviously capitulating to hateful groups like white supremacists/neonazis.
- vorpalhex 5y ago
  You can always not read/watch/support people you dislike. Censors are biased like everyone else. There are always extra casualties.
  - joomooru 5y ago
    Tell that to the victims of the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting victims: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gab_(social_network)#2018_Pittsburgh_synagogue_shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gab_(social_network)#2018_Pitt...
    - vorpalhex 5y ago
      Well good thing no bad person has ever posted on Facebook.. or Twitter.. or Instagram.. or written a manifesto and sent it via USPS. Facebook has literally been used to livestream rape and murder! And your own source says Gab turned everything over to the FBI. What, exactly, is the fault here? Them not having a time machine?
  - heavyset_go 5y ago
    Gab can always run their own F-Droid repository, as well.
- francis-io 5y ago
  Of course it's politically neutral. Inaction is neutral.
  - joomooru 5y ago
    Sorry, political neutrality doesn't exist. Inaction in the face of injustice, means you are advocating for the status quo. E.g. the white moderate from Letter from Birmingham Jail.
    - young_unixer 5y ago
      Then radical left speech shouldn't be allowed either, but many Mastodon instances allow communists (like, they literally call themselves communist) without any issue.
      - monocasa 5y ago
        Once again, the goal isn't to be politically neutral.
hartator 5y ago
Well for some alternative app store named f-droid, you expect them to be the home of all the rejections of the Play Store. What the point of jailbreaking your phone if you end up with the same limitations.
- commoner 5y ago
  F-Droid specializes in free and open source software. It does not specialize in software rejected from other app stores. F-Droid is also available on all Android phones, rooted or not. Android allows apps to be sideloaded if no app store meets the user's needs.
- cyborgx7 5y ago
  >Well for some alternative app store named f-droid, you expect them to be the home of all the rejections of the Play Store. That is a strong misunderstanding on your end, then. F-Droid is a free software client to a repository of free software apps, for people who prefer free software and maybe even contributing to the possibility of running free software only on your android phone. It has nothing to do with being a home of rejected apps from the Play Store.
gruez 5y ago
Why is that strange? Up until a decades ago, the ACLU fought for both communists[1] and nazis[2]. If you're fighting for software freedom (ie. the narrative of freeing people from the oppression of google/apple app stores), it makes sense for your position to be "software freedom for everyone", not "software freedom for everyone, except nazis because fuck them". [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_Liberties_Union#McCarthyism_era https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_Liberties_Union... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_Liberties_Union#The_Skokie_case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_Liberties_Union...

joomooru 5y ago

Funny thing is with these "free speech" advocates, allowing hate speech (antisemitism, racism, sexism, etc.) on your platform is anything but politically neutral. It's obviously capitulating to hateful groups like white supremacists/neonazis.

vorpalhex 5y ago
You can always not read/watch/support people you dislike. Censors are biased like everyone else. There are always extra casualties.
- joomooru 5y ago
  Tell that to the victims of the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting victims: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gab_(social_network)#2018_Pittsburgh_synagogue_shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gab_(social_network)#2018_Pitt...
  - vorpalhex 5y ago
    Well good thing no bad person has ever posted on Facebook.. or Twitter.. or Instagram.. or written a manifesto and sent it via USPS. Facebook has literally been used to livestream rape and murder! And your own source says Gab turned everything over to the FBI. What, exactly, is the fault here? Them not having a time machine?
- heavyset_go 5y ago
  Gab can always run their own F-Droid repository, as well.
francis-io 5y ago
Of course it's politically neutral. Inaction is neutral.
- joomooru 5y ago
  Sorry, political neutrality doesn't exist. Inaction in the face of injustice, means you are advocating for the status quo. E.g. the white moderate from Letter from Birmingham Jail.
  - young_unixer 5y ago
    Then radical left speech shouldn't be allowed either, but many Mastodon instances allow communists (like, they literally call themselves communist) without any issue.
    - monocasa 5y ago
      Once again, the goal isn't to be politically neutral.

hartator 5y ago

Well for some alternative app store named f-droid, you expect them to be the home of all the rejections of the Play Store. What the point of jailbreaking your phone if you end up with the same limitations.

commoner 5y ago
F-Droid specializes in free and open source software. It does not specialize in software rejected from other app stores. F-Droid is also available on all Android phones, rooted or not. Android allows apps to be sideloaded if no app store meets the user's needs.
cyborgx7 5y ago
>Well for some alternative app store named f-droid, you expect them to be the home of all the rejections of the Play Store. That is a strong misunderstanding on your end, then. F-Droid is a free software client to a repository of free software apps, for people who prefer free software and maybe even contributing to the possibility of running free software only on your android phone. It has nothing to do with being a home of rejected apps from the Play Store.

gruez 5y ago

Why is that strange? Up until a decades ago, the ACLU fought for both communists[1] and nazis[2]. If you're fighting for software freedom (ie. the narrative of freeing people from the oppression of google/apple app stores), it makes sense for your position to be "software freedom for everyone", not "software freedom for everyone, except nazis because fuck them". [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_Liberties_Union#McCarthyism_era https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_Liberties_Union... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_Liberties_Union#The_Skokie_case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_Liberties_Union...