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That's just saying the same thing in a different way. It is unsustainable given our current model of taxation and government spending. Good luck convincing the

That's just saying the same thing in a different way. It is unsustainable given our current model of taxation and government spending. Good luck convincing the populace to pay significantly more in taxes while the government "hoards" their money for some future expense beyond the average person's lifetime.

Kye 5y ago
Georgia uses SPLOSTs for stuff like this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special-purpose_local-option_sales_tax https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special-purpose_local-option_s... Here's an example of the result in this local interchange conversion from an intersection that wasn't designed for all the traffic going through it: https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9462412,-83.7533688,476m/data=!3m1!1e3 https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9462412,-83.7533688,476m/dat... It looks sparse in traffic now, but it used to take 5-30 minutes to cross! Another underway closer to Athens: https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9400062,-83.7207463,3a,75y,20.86h,101.24t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sLa9wkJ8NEAGu3a_4gCEmYw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DLa9wkJ8NEAGu3a_4gCEmYw%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D61.264313%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192 https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9400062,-83.7207463,3a,75y,2... This is part of a years-long project to turn highway 316/University Parkway between Athens and I-85 into a controlled-access highway to handle the next few decades of growth as what used to be sprawl from Atlanta turns into major population centers.
rootusrootus 5y ago
My point is that switching to urbanized infrastructure isn't going to suddenly make the population more willing to fork out more in taxes. It just moves the problem.
- acdha 5y ago
  They will, however, be seeing significant economies of scale. A suburban street with 20 houses on it has similar maintenance costs to an urban block but the latter expense can spread across hundreds of taxpayers and living in a city means they need less parking because many people don’t need a personal car to function.

Kye 5y ago

Georgia uses SPLOSTs for stuff like this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special-purpose_local-option_sales_tax https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special-purpose_local-option_s... Here's an example of the result in this local interchange conversion from an intersection that wasn't designed for all the traffic going through it: https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9462412,-83.7533688,476m/data=!3m1!1e3 https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9462412,-83.7533688,476m/dat... It looks sparse in traffic now, but it used to take 5-30 minutes to cross! Another underway closer to Athens: https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9400062,-83.7207463,3a,75y,20.86h,101.24t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sLa9wkJ8NEAGu3a_4gCEmYw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DLa9wkJ8NEAGu3a_4gCEmYw%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D61.264313%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192 https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9400062,-83.7207463,3a,75y,2... This is part of a years-long project to turn highway 316/University Parkway between Athens and I-85 into a controlled-access highway to handle the next few decades of growth as what used to be sprawl from Atlanta turns into major population centers.

rootusrootus 5y ago

My point is that switching to urbanized infrastructure isn't going to suddenly make the population more willing to fork out more in taxes. It just moves the problem.

acdha 5y ago
They will, however, be seeing significant economies of scale. A suburban street with 20 houses on it has similar maintenance costs to an urban block but the latter expense can spread across hundreds of taxpayers and living in a city means they need less parking because many people don’t need a personal car to function.