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This won't work on the new M1 macs since it uses VirtualBox

jedisct1 5y ago
Yeah :( Ever since I switched to an M1, I haven't found a way to reliably build and run x86_64 containers on it. Docker desktop with Qemu is not just painfully slow, it's also very buggy and some containers just can't be built without crashing. Is there any alternative?
- bbatsell 5y ago
  I haven't tested it, but Lima purports to support it: https://github.com/lima-vm/lima/blob/master/docs/multi-arch.md https://github.com/lima-vm/lima/blob/master/docs/multi-arch....
  - jbreiding 5y ago
    Give https://github.com/abiosoft/colima https://github.com/abiosoft/colima A try, I’ve been using it for a few months on both m1 and x64. It works really well.
- therealmarv 5y ago
  Try UTM https://mac.getutm.app/ https://mac.getutm.app/ Run x86 Linux of your choice there, install Docker inside there. Run it there.
  - PolCPP 5y ago
    You'll get the same issues, since utm uses qemu. Tried it a few days ago with x64 linux only to have the os crash while copying stuff over smb
    - navels 5y ago
      FWIW I switched from Docker Desktop to UTM+Ubuntu+Docker a few months ago and it has been great.
      - PolCPP 5y ago
        ARM Ubuntu or X86?
        navels 5y ago
        ARM 21.10. Greatly improved disk performance. (Not measured, just based on my dev experience with the RoR + MySQL app I am working on.). I did find file sharing via WebDAV and SMB to be lacking so ended up going with sshfs.
- Rucadi 5y ago
  Have you tried https://threedots.ovh/blog/2021/01/huawei-exagear-x86_64-apps-on-arm64/ https://threedots.ovh/blog/2021/01/huawei-exagear-x86_64-app... maybe it works faster than qemu for a chrooted environment.
- InsaneOstrich 5y ago
  My organization decided to hold off on purchasing M1 MacBooks for developers until they're better supported by third party software. Too much stuff just crashes or doesn't work well, even with QEMU and Rosetta.
  - rvz 5y ago
    Exactly. After the November 2020 release of the M1 Macs, Docker and many developer tools were still not available and you would have to wait 6 - 8 months for Docker to be fully supported and out of beta for M1 Macs. Not quite ideal to wait for your tools to be available on your machine for more months in order to do any work on it. The smartest thing anyone would have done to save themselves from disappointment and frustration as a developer is by simply using your existing Intel Macs and 'waiting' for the software ecosystem to catch up with the Apple Silicon Macs.
- c7DJTLrn 5y ago
  I don't have anything of substance to add but I can definitely echo your experience. I'm still in love with the M1 chips but it is definitely not a seamless transition if you work with Docker a lot. I've had containers behave really strangely and unreproducibly.
- lmarcos 5y ago
  VMware fusion plus Vagrant.

Yeah :( Ever since I switched to an M1, I haven't found a way to reliably build and run x86_64 containers on it. Docker desktop with Qemu is not just painfully slow, it's also very buggy and some containers just can't be built without crashing. Is there any alternative?

bbatsell 5y ago
I haven't tested it, but Lima purports to support it: https://github.com/lima-vm/lima/blob/master/docs/multi-arch.md https://github.com/lima-vm/lima/blob/master/docs/multi-arch....
- jbreiding 5y ago
  Give https://github.com/abiosoft/colima https://github.com/abiosoft/colima A try, I’ve been using it for a few months on both m1 and x64. It works really well.
therealmarv 5y ago
Try UTM https://mac.getutm.app/ https://mac.getutm.app/ Run x86 Linux of your choice there, install Docker inside there. Run it there.
- PolCPP 5y ago
  You'll get the same issues, since utm uses qemu. Tried it a few days ago with x64 linux only to have the os crash while copying stuff over smb
  - navels 5y ago
    FWIW I switched from Docker Desktop to UTM+Ubuntu+Docker a few months ago and it has been great.
    - PolCPP 5y ago
      ARM Ubuntu or X86?
      - navels 5y ago
        ARM 21.10. Greatly improved disk performance. (Not measured, just based on my dev experience with the RoR + MySQL app I am working on.). I did find file sharing via WebDAV and SMB to be lacking so ended up going with sshfs.
Rucadi 5y ago
Have you tried https://threedots.ovh/blog/2021/01/huawei-exagear-x86_64-apps-on-arm64/ https://threedots.ovh/blog/2021/01/huawei-exagear-x86_64-app... maybe it works faster than qemu for a chrooted environment.
InsaneOstrich 5y ago
My organization decided to hold off on purchasing M1 MacBooks for developers until they're better supported by third party software. Too much stuff just crashes or doesn't work well, even with QEMU and Rosetta.
- rvz 5y ago
  Exactly. After the November 2020 release of the M1 Macs, Docker and many developer tools were still not available and you would have to wait 6 - 8 months for Docker to be fully supported and out of beta for M1 Macs. Not quite ideal to wait for your tools to be available on your machine for more months in order to do any work on it. The smartest thing anyone would have done to save themselves from disappointment and frustration as a developer is by simply using your existing Intel Macs and 'waiting' for the software ecosystem to catch up with the Apple Silicon Macs.
c7DJTLrn 5y ago
I don't have anything of substance to add but I can definitely echo your experience. I'm still in love with the M1 chips but it is definitely not a seamless transition if you work with Docker a lot. I've had containers behave really strangely and unreproducibly.
lmarcos 5y ago
VMware fusion plus Vagrant.