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Vim movement is amazing. However, I've never seen any great benefits to learning more advanced features of the application, it's just too much to think about.

randomdrake 5y ago
Maybe you don’t yet grok vi. https://stackoverflow.com/a/1220118 https://stackoverflow.com/a/1220118
metrix 5y ago
It depends on how much you use it. Being able to open multiple files, visually diff from a VCS, and find/replace in all open buffers is quite handy if you're in the CLI quite a lot
buscoquadnary 5y ago
I was in the same boat then I switched to Doom Emacs it has all the VIM keybindings but a lot of the emacs power and it covered a lot of the places that VIM was lacking before I now find it one of the best prodcutivity decisions I've made in a long time. Plus once you figure out org mode and magit you can't imagine living life without them. (Also as a humrous aside I just tried finishing this post by typing :wq! because of force of habit, I love vim)
krono 5y ago
Those benefits only became apparent after about a week of forcing myself to use them + some minor tweaks. Can't say it made me any faster or more efficient, but it sure does feel satisfying and more comfortable. And, let's be honest, it also makes me look cool!
rackjack 5y ago
Vim is very big, so don't learn it until you need it. For example, if you want to draw diagrams in Vim, you could certainly just add all the spaces and such yourself, or you could use `virtualedit=block` and vim will add the spaces for you. But you'd never know about the option beforehand because you didn't need it before.
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wolverine876 5y ago
> I've never seen any great benefits to learning more advanced features of the application, it's just too much to think about. Once you learn them, there is nothing to think about; that's the beauty. It's muscle memory - I swear (I haven't tested with an EKG) that the signal doesn't enter my conciousness, like an old violinist playing.
- ImprovedSilence 5y ago
  I use vim a ton, but I guess never the complex movements as much, because if I want to do anything ever so slightly complex, I've got to sit there and think about it more than I really should... There is just too much for it all to end up as muscle memory, there's no way everything gets used enough for that to happen.
  - wolverine876 5y ago
    > There is just too much for it all to end up as muscle memory, there's no way everything gets used enough for that to happen. Yes, that only applies to things I use regularly, though they can be easily combined into larger commands. I'm not at all suggesting that things I use once a year go to muscle memory, much less all of Vim (probably only Moolenaar knows it all)!

randomdrake 5y ago

Maybe you don’t yet grok vi. https://stackoverflow.com/a/1220118 https://stackoverflow.com/a/1220118

metrix 5y ago

It depends on how much you use it. Being able to open multiple files, visually diff from a VCS, and find/replace in all open buffers is quite handy if you're in the CLI quite a lot

buscoquadnary 5y ago

I was in the same boat then I switched to Doom Emacs it has all the VIM keybindings but a lot of the emacs power and it covered a lot of the places that VIM was lacking before I now find it one of the best prodcutivity decisions I've made in a long time. Plus once you figure out org mode and magit you can't imagine living life without them. (Also as a humrous aside I just tried finishing this post by typing :wq! because of force of habit, I love vim)

krono 5y ago

Those benefits only became apparent after about a week of forcing myself to use them + some minor tweaks. Can't say it made me any faster or more efficient, but it sure does feel satisfying and more comfortable. And, let's be honest, it also makes me look cool!

rackjack 5y ago

Vim is very big, so don't learn it until you need it. For example, if you want to draw diagrams in Vim, you could certainly just add all the spaces and such yourself, or you could use `virtualedit=block` and vim will add the spaces for you. But you'd never know about the option beforehand because you didn't need it before.

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wolverine876 5y ago

> I've never seen any great benefits to learning more advanced features of the application, it's just too much to think about. Once you learn them, there is nothing to think about; that's the beauty. It's muscle memory - I swear (I haven't tested with an EKG) that the signal doesn't enter my conciousness, like an old violinist playing.

ImprovedSilence 5y ago
I use vim a ton, but I guess never the complex movements as much, because if I want to do anything ever so slightly complex, I've got to sit there and think about it more than I really should... There is just too much for it all to end up as muscle memory, there's no way everything gets used enough for that to happen.
- wolverine876 5y ago
  > There is just too much for it all to end up as muscle memory, there's no way everything gets used enough for that to happen. Yes, that only applies to things I use regularly, though they can be easily combined into larger commands. I'm not at all suggesting that things I use once a year go to muscle memory, much less all of Vim (probably only Moolenaar knows it all)!