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This is untrue, paragliding doesn’t require any wind for descending. You generate your own airspeed. There are also other ways of staying up than soaring (therm

This is untrue, paragliding doesn’t require any wind for descending. You generate your own airspeed. There are also other ways of staying up than soaring (thermals). Additionally, wind isn’t the source of the risk, rather wind variability and turbulence. Flying in low wind doesn’t add to the risk profile.

petre 5y ago
Yes, you could take off in zero wind and fly off a cliff but it's quite boring. I wouldn't even bother hauling my paraglider up a cliff on a windless evening when the there are minimal thermals. Not without a lift. The risk profile is is quite debatable. But the general consensus is that paramotoring is safer. I see it simply carying other risks, like tangling your lines in the propeller, improperly operating the engine etc. Also the number of yearly fatalities is smaller, which doesn't actually say anything without total hours of flight. For paragliding I think most uncontrollable risk mainly revolves around weather.
- kragen 5y ago
  Hmm, so maybe one reason paramotoring is safer is that the safest time to go paragliding or paramotoring is when there's no wind and thus no wind shear (etc.), but that's inconvenient and boring for paragliding? Estimating total hours of flight in the US seems like it would be difficult since there's no licensing regime.
  - petre 5y ago
    Yes, pretty much. Once can paramotor on a flat field with no features on a clear windless day. Plus there's no need for altitude loss procedures which carry some risk, no aerobatics, the wing is almost always properly loaded because you carry a 30 kg motor on your back and you don't need all the wing area that you normally need for paragliding, so the risk for wing collapse is smaller. There are simply other risks involved.
- peterbraden 5y ago
  I would disagree on boring, thermal flying on a windless day is amazing, proximity flying, a chill sled ride. Many fun ways to play without wind. I wouldn’t comment on safety comparisons with paramotoring without more statistics.
  - petre 5y ago
    Thermal flying implies wind or updraft. I haven't found any proper statistics, just fatalities without hours of flight for each activity. Which are really just anecdotes masked as statistics.
    - peterbraden 5y ago
      Sure, but you’re twisting words. Wind is pretty much always used to refer to horizontal air movement.

petre 5y ago

Yes, you could take off in zero wind and fly off a cliff but it's quite boring. I wouldn't even bother hauling my paraglider up a cliff on a windless evening when the there are minimal thermals. Not without a lift. The risk profile is is quite debatable. But the general consensus is that paramotoring is safer. I see it simply carying other risks, like tangling your lines in the propeller, improperly operating the engine etc. Also the number of yearly fatalities is smaller, which doesn't actually say anything without total hours of flight. For paragliding I think most uncontrollable risk mainly revolves around weather.

kragen 5y ago
Hmm, so maybe one reason paramotoring is safer is that the safest time to go paragliding or paramotoring is when there's no wind and thus no wind shear (etc.), but that's inconvenient and boring for paragliding? Estimating total hours of flight in the US seems like it would be difficult since there's no licensing regime.
- petre 5y ago
  Yes, pretty much. Once can paramotor on a flat field with no features on a clear windless day. Plus there's no need for altitude loss procedures which carry some risk, no aerobatics, the wing is almost always properly loaded because you carry a 30 kg motor on your back and you don't need all the wing area that you normally need for paragliding, so the risk for wing collapse is smaller. There are simply other risks involved.
peterbraden 5y ago
I would disagree on boring, thermal flying on a windless day is amazing, proximity flying, a chill sled ride. Many fun ways to play without wind. I wouldn’t comment on safety comparisons with paramotoring without more statistics.
- petre 5y ago
  Thermal flying implies wind or updraft. I haven't found any proper statistics, just fatalities without hours of flight for each activity. Which are really just anecdotes masked as statistics.
  - peterbraden 5y ago
    Sure, but you’re twisting words. Wind is pretty much always used to refer to horizontal air movement.