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> there is a real problem here of how to build and maintain a modern city that is smaller than the older one that it replaces. I'm nearly certain Pittsburgh it

> there is a real problem here of how to build and maintain a modern city that is smaller than the older one that it replaces. I'm nearly certain Pittsburgh itself, the city, and its immediate surrounding boroughs has grown in population pretty steadily (though not significantly) since the steel boom even while the population of it's suburbs (and PA in general) have steadily lost population, though some areas around the city have grown, like near the airport, property values have skyrocketed to the point that I see a real estate bubble (cookie cutter single family houses built in the 1960's are going for $250K-$350K now, a lot to pay for a 60yo house in the burbs), which contrasts the other areas that have been completely gutted in population and deteriorated (like Ambridge, Aliquippa).

samatman 5y ago
Your near certainty is not justified by numbers which are publicly available and could have been consulted. The population of Pittsburgh proper is half what it was in 1950. Here's a convenient tabulation: http://population.city/united-states/pittsburgh/ http://population.city/united-states/pittsburgh/ You're equally wrong about the suburbs, which have grown as the city center shrank.
- Maursault 5y ago
  > You're equally wrong about the suburbs, which have grown as the city center shrank. Nonsense. My mistake, but my math is at least good enough to know I was not equally wrong. That would be far too unlikely, but if so, some kind of bizarre coincidence.
syki 5y ago
The population of metro area Pittsburgh has declined in the last 20 years and is over 100,000 people less than it was in 1970 [1]. Pittsburgh’s population today is 10% less than it was in 2000 and is considerably smaller than it was at its peak [2]. [1] https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/23100/pittsburgh/population https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/23100/pittsburgh/populati... [2] https://www.biggestuscities.com/city/pittsburgh-pennsylvania https://www.biggestuscities.com/city/pittsburgh-pennsylvania
draw_down 5y ago
tagoregrtst 5y ago
Pittsburgh is having a rebirth in the last ten years. Before that, it was bleeding population for 50 years

samatman 5y ago

Your near certainty is not justified by numbers which are publicly available and could have been consulted. The population of Pittsburgh proper is half what it was in 1950. Here's a convenient tabulation: http://population.city/united-states/pittsburgh/ http://population.city/united-states/pittsburgh/ You're equally wrong about the suburbs, which have grown as the city center shrank.

Maursault 5y ago
> You're equally wrong about the suburbs, which have grown as the city center shrank. Nonsense. My mistake, but my math is at least good enough to know I was not equally wrong. That would be far too unlikely, but if so, some kind of bizarre coincidence.

syki 5y ago

The population of metro area Pittsburgh has declined in the last 20 years and is over 100,000 people less than it was in 1970 [1]. Pittsburgh’s population today is 10% less than it was in 2000 and is considerably smaller than it was at its peak [2]. [1] https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/23100/pittsburgh/population https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/23100/pittsburgh/populati... [2] https://www.biggestuscities.com/city/pittsburgh-pennsylvania https://www.biggestuscities.com/city/pittsburgh-pennsylvania

draw_down 5y ago

tagoregrtst 5y ago

Pittsburgh is having a rebirth in the last ten years. Before that, it was bleeding population for 50 years