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I couldn't find ratings specific to Pittsburgh to determine what proportion of them fit into the Good/Fair/Poor categories. That's what would really be needed t

I couldn't find ratings specific to Pittsburgh to determine what proportion of them fit into the Good/Fair/Poor categories. That's what would really be needed to assess the scale of the problem for Pittsburgh relative to the rest of the country. Although knowing what I do about the area I wouldn't be surprised if it is disproportionately worse: It's only somewhat recently that it's made a bit of an economic comeback from its downtrodden rustbelt days. I just wanted to clarify that, as much as Pittsburgh may be particularly problematic, its infrastructure issues were still replicated across most of the US.

steveklabnik 5y ago
So, I actually did look this up four days ago, but it seems that PennDOT changed their website? https://www.penndot.gov/ProjectAndPrograms/Bridges/Pages/default.aspx https://www.penndot.gov/ProjectAndPrograms/Bridges/Pages/def... Those excel spreadsheets don't seem to do anything when I click on them. The note I took was "There are 25,437 bridges in PA. 9.59% of them were rated in “poor” condition last month, with only 34.37% of them being “good”". The original sheet was broken out by county, with Allegheny County basically being the same as the city of Pittsburgh in this regard. > I just wanted to clarify that, as much as Pittsburgh may be particularly problematic, its infrastructure issues were still replicated across most of the US. Absolutely, it is an issue everywhere for sure.
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JohnHaugeland 5y ago
The bus was over bridge weight. Before you go trying to fix the bridges, take the time to figure out what the problem was.
- brewdad 5y ago
  Citation needed. Are you saying the bus driver deviated from the usual route? Did the driver allow more passengers to board than is normally allowed? Perhaps a passenger boarded with their collection of lead figurines. I don't see how the bus could have been overweight without someone knowing the risks. It's not an Uber, they know where that bus will be traveling every time it leaves the station.
  - steveklabnik 5y ago
    Hard agree that this is "citation needed." It is the normal route for that bus: https://www.portauthority.org/pdfs/112016/61B.pdf https://www.portauthority.org/pdfs/112016/61B.pdf (you can check the map at the bottom) They run pretty often.
    - neuronexmachina 5y ago
      Oh wow, it was the 61B? I used to ride that bus route all the time (and 61A/61C) when I was in undergrad.
      - steveklabnik 5y ago
        yep https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/7e467cc904ea471088b91c6d11e6f3a7/1000.jpeg https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/7e467cc904ea47... (from the AP story: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-pittsburgh-bridge-collapses-b91476e4d1dc1c7839bd0c39e7be186e https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-pittsburgh-bri...)
  - bombcar 5y ago
    I mean in a sense it's clear, there's a collapsed bridge with a bus on it ... https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1986/11/26 https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1986/11/26 But if it was actually over the posted weight limit, that'll come out shortly.
  - JohnHaugeland 5y ago
    > Are you saying the bus driver deviated from the usual route? I didn't say anything like that, no, nor any of the other invented things you tried to add to my actual statement. . > Perhaps a passenger boarded with their collection of lead figurines. Pew says the average American weighs 181 pounds. I'm not sure why you think you need lead figurines. Two tons, 181 pounds at a time, is only 22 people. PATransit busses are rated for 42 people plus two wheelchair bound people. This bus is over weight at half load. Please be less sarcastic. Thanks. . > It's not an Uber, they know where that bus will be traveling every time it leaves the station. Yes, that's why I blame them. . > Citation needed. Feel free to look it up.

steveklabnik 5y ago

So, I actually did look this up four days ago, but it seems that PennDOT changed their website? https://www.penndot.gov/ProjectAndPrograms/Bridges/Pages/default.aspx https://www.penndot.gov/ProjectAndPrograms/Bridges/Pages/def... Those excel spreadsheets don't seem to do anything when I click on them. The note I took was "There are 25,437 bridges in PA. 9.59% of them were rated in “poor” condition last month, with only 34.37% of them being “good”". The original sheet was broken out by county, with Allegheny County basically being the same as the city of Pittsburgh in this regard. > I just wanted to clarify that, as much as Pittsburgh may be particularly problematic, its infrastructure issues were still replicated across most of the US. Absolutely, it is an issue everywhere for sure.

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JohnHaugeland 5y ago

The bus was over bridge weight. Before you go trying to fix the bridges, take the time to figure out what the problem was.

brewdad 5y ago
Citation needed. Are you saying the bus driver deviated from the usual route? Did the driver allow more passengers to board than is normally allowed? Perhaps a passenger boarded with their collection of lead figurines. I don't see how the bus could have been overweight without someone knowing the risks. It's not an Uber, they know where that bus will be traveling every time it leaves the station.
- steveklabnik 5y ago
  Hard agree that this is "citation needed." It is the normal route for that bus: https://www.portauthority.org/pdfs/112016/61B.pdf https://www.portauthority.org/pdfs/112016/61B.pdf (you can check the map at the bottom) They run pretty often.
  - neuronexmachina 5y ago
    Oh wow, it was the 61B? I used to ride that bus route all the time (and 61A/61C) when I was in undergrad.
    - steveklabnik 5y ago
      yep https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/7e467cc904ea471088b91c6d11e6f3a7/1000.jpeg https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/7e467cc904ea47... (from the AP story: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-pittsburgh-bridge-collapses-b91476e4d1dc1c7839bd0c39e7be186e https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-pittsburgh-bri...)
- bombcar 5y ago
  I mean in a sense it's clear, there's a collapsed bridge with a bus on it ... https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1986/11/26 https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1986/11/26 But if it was actually over the posted weight limit, that'll come out shortly.
- JohnHaugeland 5y ago
  > Are you saying the bus driver deviated from the usual route? I didn't say anything like that, no, nor any of the other invented things you tried to add to my actual statement. . > Perhaps a passenger boarded with their collection of lead figurines. Pew says the average American weighs 181 pounds. I'm not sure why you think you need lead figurines. Two tons, 181 pounds at a time, is only 22 people. PATransit busses are rated for 42 people plus two wheelchair bound people. This bus is over weight at half load. Please be less sarcastic. Thanks. . > It's not an Uber, they know where that bus will be traveling every time it leaves the station. Yes, that's why I blame them. . > Citation needed. Feel free to look it up.