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As a motorcyclist I welcome any rules which make drivers more aware. Side note: I live in Taiwan and you wouldn't believe how stupid some of the rules are here

by jwmoz 5y ago

As a motorcyclist I welcome any rules which make drivers more aware. Side note: I live in Taiwan and you wouldn't believe how stupid some of the rules are here, it annoys me everyday as it's needlessly dangerous. Some red lights you can drive over, if they are flashing, I believe. And the worst for me is when pedestrian crossing is on green cars can still drive through it so you get drivers needlessly pushing to go over a green crossing even when pedestrians are crossing.

xnyan 5y ago
I vividly remember visiting NYC for the first time and being shocked that while starting to cross 8th ave and 15th st, that a yellow cab was already making a turn the second I put my foot in the intersection and was slowing creeping towards me. It's probably just the nature of a big city.
- tharne 5y ago
  > I vividly remember visiting NYC for the first time and being shocked that while starting to cross 8th ave and 15th st, that a yellow cab was already making a turn the second I put my foot in the intersection and was slowing creeping towards me. I had the exact same reaction the first time I saw this. I was a teenager at the time and remember actually slamming the hood of a turning cab with my fist on more than one occasion, before realizing that what the cabs were doing was normal and accepted behavior.
- awhitby 5y ago
  At least compared with a few other fairly big cities I've lived in this is a distinctively New York and even Manhattan phenomenon. I drive rarely here but my assumption is that drivers would often never get to turn the corner if they gave crossing pedestrians the polite space they do elsewhere, because of a combination of (foot) traffic density and pedestrians ignoring their light. That last part, I think, is because New York pedestrian lights have a relatively long "red flashing" phase, which combined with New Yorkers being New Yorkers has the counterintuitive effect that everyone treats red flashing, and even the few seconds after, as "go ahead and start crossing."
- kevin_thibedeau 5y ago
  New York permits driving through the unoccupied half of a crosswalk.

by jwmoz 5y ago

xnyan 5y ago

I vividly remember visiting NYC for the first time and being shocked that while starting to cross 8th ave and 15th st, that a yellow cab was already making a turn the second I put my foot in the intersection and was slowing creeping towards me. It's probably just the nature of a big city.

tharne 5y ago
> I vividly remember visiting NYC for the first time and being shocked that while starting to cross 8th ave and 15th st, that a yellow cab was already making a turn the second I put my foot in the intersection and was slowing creeping towards me. I had the exact same reaction the first time I saw this. I was a teenager at the time and remember actually slamming the hood of a turning cab with my fist on more than one occasion, before realizing that what the cabs were doing was normal and accepted behavior.
awhitby 5y ago
At least compared with a few other fairly big cities I've lived in this is a distinctively New York and even Manhattan phenomenon. I drive rarely here but my assumption is that drivers would often never get to turn the corner if they gave crossing pedestrians the polite space they do elsewhere, because of a combination of (foot) traffic density and pedestrians ignoring their light. That last part, I think, is because New York pedestrian lights have a relatively long "red flashing" phase, which combined with New Yorkers being New Yorkers has the counterintuitive effect that everyone treats red flashing, and even the few seconds after, as "go ahead and start crossing."
kevin_thibedeau 5y ago
New York permits driving through the unoccupied half of a crosswalk.