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I know it is a sensitive topic. Thats why I listen to people with experience. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufy2AweXRkc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufy2Aw

by nbzso 5y ago

I know it is a sensitive topic. Thats why I listen to people with experience. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufy2AweXRkc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufy2AweXRkc

dgb23 5y ago
This video was suggested on my feed a while ago. I tried to make sense of the author and his other content, but it all seems incredibly shady and snake-oily to me. But I'm a layman Does someone care to clarify the credibility of the author and his content?
- raws 5y ago
  From what I understand it is saying that ivermectin is useful and efficient at blocking the tool (protein scissors; protease) that the virus needs in order to spread a protein out of the cell. The new Pfizer COVID drug is supposed to do that too but ivermectin is 0.06$ vs new Pfizer drug with a 20year patent lots of cash for a good lobbying company :) Credibility of the author idk :s
- ifyoubuildit 5y ago
  > Does someone care to clarify the credibility of the author and his content? What are the potential outcomes here? You're sure to find people on this site (whose credibility you also can't judge) who claim he's the antichrist and others who claim he is actual Jesus, mostly depending on what their social circle happens to believe. What do you do with that information? That said, John Campbell is one of the few YouTube sources I've found myself continuously going back to throughout the pandemic. Like anything else, I take things he says as "Ok, now I know someone has said this", not "OK, this is a thing that I now know to be true".
- cableshaft 5y ago
  "John L. Campbell is a British YouTuber, retired nurse educator and author of nursing textbooks who has posted a number of widely-viewed YouTube videos on his Dr. John Campbell channel commenting on the COVID-19 pandemic. In August 2020, Campbell's channel was referred to by UNICEF's regional office for Europe and Central Asia as good example of expert engagement with social media. By January 2022, his videos had been viewed more than 429 million times." "Campbell worked as a nursing educator at the University of Cumbria, and has experience as an A&E nurse. He has also taught health workers in India and Cambodia. He is the author of Campbell's Physiology Notes and Campbell's Pathophysiology Notes nursing-related biosciences text books. A 2011 book review in Emergency Nurse magazine said Campbell's Physiology Notes was "excellent, inexpensive notes on the causes, pathophysiological changes and clinical features seen in disease processes"."[1] To be fair, a good chunk of his Wikipedia article mention his videos about Ivermectin and how they're false claims based on some articles people have posted in response to his video, which is to be expected since anything positive said about Ivermectin is bound to have people counter it. Dr. Campbell has posted almost 2000 videos, pretty much every day since the pandemic started (although if you sort by oldest on his channel you can see 14 year old low-res, poor audio/lighting videos[2] of him going over various medical concepts, btw, pretty interesting), where he reviews and explains probably 20+ charts and graphs and statistics and quotes and studies to the best of his understanding. He's also human and may very well have been led down a wrong rabbit hole by his interpretation of some studies (or perhaps not, Ivermectin seems to have become one of the things that everyone decided they'll believe in its efficacy based pretty much exclusively on political party alignment). You should always take in information with a critical eye, including Dr. Campbell. I've watched probably a hundred of his videos and I don't always agree with his conclusions 100% either, but I can't say that about anyone ever, so I don't expect that of him either. What I have seen is, especially on his more general update videos, the most comprehensive compilation of data (as digestible to a layperson as possible) for complicated medical concepts. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell_(YouTuber) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell_(YouTuber) [2]: https://youtu.be/tmkH87YPN4g https://youtu.be/tmkH87YPN4g
  - xtracto 5y ago
    > or perhaps not, Ivermectin seems to have become one of the things that everyone decided they'll believe in its efficacy based pretty much exclusively on political party alignment). This is something I find very funny. As someone from outside the USA, it amazes me how something like this got politicized over there. Does Ivermectin have any effect against COVID19? That should be a dialog left to scientists following the scientific method. All that craziness of "ZOMG horse dewormer" from the left (ignoring that there ARE IVM pills for humans) and "ZOMG Muh Freedom" from the right (ignoring how how virus and vaccines work) is just mudding the scientific research around the thing.
  - dgb23 5y ago
    Didn't even assume there was a Wikipedia entry. Thanks for the detailed answer.
- nojokes 5y ago
  Dr Campbell can explains some difficult research papers fairly well but he has one major shortcoming - he does not explain study limitations. For example he may say that this paper found that some drug works for something but he does not stress that it was in vitro study (in the lab) and this is very early to say if it even works when tested on animals. Even worse, he have done the same for results in silico i.e. computer simulations that are not even close to the real world.

by nbzso 5y ago

I know it is a sensitive topic. Thats why I listen to people with experience. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufy2AweXRkc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufy2AweXRkc

dgb23 5y ago

This video was suggested on my feed a while ago. I tried to make sense of the author and his other content, but it all seems incredibly shady and snake-oily to me. But I'm a layman Does someone care to clarify the credibility of the author and his content?

raws 5y ago
From what I understand it is saying that ivermectin is useful and efficient at blocking the tool (protein scissors; protease) that the virus needs in order to spread a protein out of the cell. The new Pfizer COVID drug is supposed to do that too but ivermectin is 0.06$ vs new Pfizer drug with a 20year patent lots of cash for a good lobbying company :) Credibility of the author idk :s
ifyoubuildit 5y ago
> Does someone care to clarify the credibility of the author and his content? What are the potential outcomes here? You're sure to find people on this site (whose credibility you also can't judge) who claim he's the antichrist and others who claim he is actual Jesus, mostly depending on what their social circle happens to believe. What do you do with that information? That said, John Campbell is one of the few YouTube sources I've found myself continuously going back to throughout the pandemic. Like anything else, I take things he says as "Ok, now I know someone has said this", not "OK, this is a thing that I now know to be true".
cableshaft 5y ago
"John L. Campbell is a British YouTuber, retired nurse educator and author of nursing textbooks who has posted a number of widely-viewed YouTube videos on his Dr. John Campbell channel commenting on the COVID-19 pandemic. In August 2020, Campbell's channel was referred to by UNICEF's regional office for Europe and Central Asia as good example of expert engagement with social media. By January 2022, his videos had been viewed more than 429 million times." "Campbell worked as a nursing educator at the University of Cumbria, and has experience as an A&E nurse. He has also taught health workers in India and Cambodia. He is the author of Campbell's Physiology Notes and Campbell's Pathophysiology Notes nursing-related biosciences text books. A 2011 book review in Emergency Nurse magazine said Campbell's Physiology Notes was "excellent, inexpensive notes on the causes, pathophysiological changes and clinical features seen in disease processes"."[1] To be fair, a good chunk of his Wikipedia article mention his videos about Ivermectin and how they're false claims based on some articles people have posted in response to his video, which is to be expected since anything positive said about Ivermectin is bound to have people counter it. Dr. Campbell has posted almost 2000 videos, pretty much every day since the pandemic started (although if you sort by oldest on his channel you can see 14 year old low-res, poor audio/lighting videos[2] of him going over various medical concepts, btw, pretty interesting), where he reviews and explains probably 20+ charts and graphs and statistics and quotes and studies to the best of his understanding. He's also human and may very well have been led down a wrong rabbit hole by his interpretation of some studies (or perhaps not, Ivermectin seems to have become one of the things that everyone decided they'll believe in its efficacy based pretty much exclusively on political party alignment). You should always take in information with a critical eye, including Dr. Campbell. I've watched probably a hundred of his videos and I don't always agree with his conclusions 100% either, but I can't say that about anyone ever, so I don't expect that of him either. What I have seen is, especially on his more general update videos, the most comprehensive compilation of data (as digestible to a layperson as possible) for complicated medical concepts. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell_(YouTuber) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell_(YouTuber) [2]: https://youtu.be/tmkH87YPN4g https://youtu.be/tmkH87YPN4g
- xtracto 5y ago
  > or perhaps not, Ivermectin seems to have become one of the things that everyone decided they'll believe in its efficacy based pretty much exclusively on political party alignment). This is something I find very funny. As someone from outside the USA, it amazes me how something like this got politicized over there. Does Ivermectin have any effect against COVID19? That should be a dialog left to scientists following the scientific method. All that craziness of "ZOMG horse dewormer" from the left (ignoring that there ARE IVM pills for humans) and "ZOMG Muh Freedom" from the right (ignoring how how virus and vaccines work) is just mudding the scientific research around the thing.
- dgb23 5y ago
  Didn't even assume there was a Wikipedia entry. Thanks for the detailed answer.
nojokes 5y ago
Dr Campbell can explains some difficult research papers fairly well but he has one major shortcoming - he does not explain study limitations. For example he may say that this paper found that some drug works for something but he does not stress that it was in vitro study (in the lab) and this is very early to say if it even works when tested on animals. Even worse, he have done the same for results in silico i.e. computer simulations that are not even close to the real world.