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Apple's 30% revenue cut is absurd rent seeking behavior. Good on these states. Let's keep it going and continue to dismantle similar systems at other companies.

Apple's 30% revenue cut is absurd rent seeking behavior. Good on these states. Let's keep it going and continue to dismantle similar systems at other companies. Apple can continue to mandate Apple payment options are as an option in every app, but let's watch as that 30% drops to nothingness once they face real competition.

threeseed 5y ago
Apple charges 15% for all developers earning less than $1m per year. And I think you're confused because Apple will still receive their commission irrespective of which payment provider a developer chooses to use.
- spywaregorilla 5y ago
  > Apple charges 15% for all developers earning less than $1m per year. Still absurd rent seeking behavior without real competition > And I think you're confused because Apple will still receive their commission irrespective of which payment provider a developer chooses to use. Keep pushing then
  - muro 5y ago
    They will try to keep as much of their revenue as possible. Doesn't mean they will get it.
- ethbr0 5y ago
  > Apple charges 15%... * Announced as a change by Apple in November 2020, after this lawsuit was filed in August 2020.
- MisterSandman 5y ago
  LOL, you're replying with this stupid comment on every comment without realizing that the 15% came AFTER the lawsuits so Apple could save face.
  - smoldesu 5y ago
    They do this in every thread. Apple apologism is the most insufferable and ugliest side of "Hacker" News.
hardolaf 5y ago
And Microsoft charges 30% of the sale price of any game sold on Xbox plus for physical products another 20% for the right to master it to disc plus. Why isn't EGS complaining about this?
- kevindong 5y ago
  Xboxes have always been sold at a loss and then Microsoft makes back its money via games. https://www.makeuseof.com/microsoft-confirms-its-selling-xbox-consoles-at-a-loss/ https://www.makeuseof.com/microsoft-confirms-its-selling-xbo...
  - musicale 5y ago
    The Switch was always sold at a profit relative to its hardware component and manufacturing costs, yet Nintendo charges 30% platform fees just like Apple (and Microsoft.) PS4 and PS5 (disc model) are currently sold at a profit, and Sony continues to charge the same platform fees. Nintendo (like Apple) needs to recoup R&D and software development costs, and their business model is based on charging platform fees. It's completely unsurprising that Apple's gaming handheld uses a similar walled garden/platform fee business model similar to Nintendo's.
    - musicale 5y ago
      [sadly can't fix typo; I wish HN would extend its editing window from a few hours to a week or so.]
- spywaregorilla 5y ago
  One thing at a time

threeseed 5y ago

Apple charges 15% for all developers earning less than $1m per year. And I think you're confused because Apple will still receive their commission irrespective of which payment provider a developer chooses to use.

spywaregorilla 5y ago
> Apple charges 15% for all developers earning less than $1m per year. Still absurd rent seeking behavior without real competition > And I think you're confused because Apple will still receive their commission irrespective of which payment provider a developer chooses to use. Keep pushing then
- muro 5y ago
  They will try to keep as much of their revenue as possible. Doesn't mean they will get it.
ethbr0 5y ago
> Apple charges 15%... * Announced as a change by Apple in November 2020, after this lawsuit was filed in August 2020.
MisterSandman 5y ago
LOL, you're replying with this stupid comment on every comment without realizing that the 15% came AFTER the lawsuits so Apple could save face.
- smoldesu 5y ago
  They do this in every thread. Apple apologism is the most insufferable and ugliest side of "Hacker" News.

hardolaf 5y ago

And Microsoft charges 30% of the sale price of any game sold on Xbox plus for physical products another 20% for the right to master it to disc plus. Why isn't EGS complaining about this?

kevindong 5y ago
Xboxes have always been sold at a loss and then Microsoft makes back its money via games. https://www.makeuseof.com/microsoft-confirms-its-selling-xbox-consoles-at-a-loss/ https://www.makeuseof.com/microsoft-confirms-its-selling-xbo...
- musicale 5y ago
  The Switch was always sold at a profit relative to its hardware component and manufacturing costs, yet Nintendo charges 30% platform fees just like Apple (and Microsoft.) PS4 and PS5 (disc model) are currently sold at a profit, and Sony continues to charge the same platform fees. Nintendo (like Apple) needs to recoup R&D and software development costs, and their business model is based on charging platform fees. It's completely unsurprising that Apple's gaming handheld uses a similar walled garden/platform fee business model similar to Nintendo's.
  - musicale 5y ago
    [sadly can't fix typo; I wish HN would extend its editing window from a few hours to a week or so.]
spywaregorilla 5y ago
One thing at a time