I'm all for the following the spirit of things, but I also want to take a minute to disagree with the "without being able to explain why" part. I have worked w

I'm all for the following the spirit of things, but I also want to take a minute to disagree with the "without being able to explain why" part. I have worked with people who were super booked up on Go4 and all the design stuff, and yet they can be fairly insufferable to work with when they parrot design advice from all this stuff, precisely because they can't explain why in every given situation. Then, on the receiving end of things, most of the criticism people who are expressing in this forum wrt to uncle bob, do so about examples where they coming from the perspective of something they understand. I think there is A LOT of value in all of this experience, but it has 0 utility if you don't understand it. In other words, you are much better off not considering how you feel about code at all, and always sticking to doing things because you understand why. (And I'd say 'understand' means in a way that you can explain to someone else who may be skeptical). Context is key... so it's like if you're about to do a live coding demo in front of the board, then yeah, it's ok to comment stuff out - I think that's obvious. Ideally, your outcomes will be much, much better if they're coming from those 'obvious' points of view in any given situation. Any just to be fair, doing something because you're curious, or it's fun, is just a good a reason as any, it just depends on the context. This is why, there are other people who I've worked with, who know all that stuff - I'm talking super senior people - and yet rarely ever cite it or even mention it. Usually, they will ask questions because they're patiently trying to get you (or whomever) to see for yourself the same, all-encompassing 'obvious' reason, that overrides all the other important factors in a given context, that they already see. If you ask them why a piece of code that doesn't 'feel right' to you is the way it is, they'll usually have a story about some situation, where they just had to do it that way, and maybe it's bad now but if you were there, and knew what they knew, you would have probably done the same. So, my point is, yes uncle bob stuff is fairly sound, but no I don't agree that we should follow it if we don't understand it and we're better off almost always sticking to what we do understand. O but also cool analogy about the quick and dirty. I just realized though that if you invert it completely it's like 'slow and clean'.