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What's the problem with that? Pfizer and their friends have everything riding on the idea that it never ends, none of the cheap treatments work and the only sol

What's the problem with that? Pfizer and their friends have everything riding on the idea that it never ends, none of the cheap treatments work and the only solution is to slow the spread (so that it stays around for longer) while vaccinating everyone frequently... and they are only motivated by profits.

acdha 5y ago
Vaccines are far less profitable than most of their other drugs. If they were looking to get rich, they'd want something like the HIV inhibitors where each patient is buying from them on a frequent basis.
- brippalcharrid 5y ago
  Vaccines can potentially be mandated for entire populations and funded by the US taxpayer for distribution around the world and require adjustments several times per year. The development of new related vaccines of this type is apparently quite cheap and straightforward (this was boasted about at various points over the last few years) and vaccines are also pretty unique in the way that manufacturers can effectively be immune from liability. Add in the magic word Pandemic, with careful orchestration from public health authorities and politicians I think you can have a dream combination of volume, revenue and commercial risk limitation.
  - Vrondi 5y ago
    Yes, as a person with a medical history of immune system disorder triggered by a vaccine, I am repeatedly astonished that the medical system and government keep claiming things we don't yet have data for, and trying to force _everyone_ to take these vaccines for which there is no legal recourse. The vaccine that gave me an auto-immune reaction is part of the established system that will allow some compensation to some victims. These new vaccines are too new, and not yet even eligible to be listed there, and so if your immune system reacts to one of the new vaccines by attacking your own body, it's not even eligible to be legally considered to give you compensation. But they're safe. Everyone should have them. Lucky you if it ruins your body or life.
    - brippalcharrid 5y ago
      Also, those compensation schemes are run by the government. And it's worth mentioning that a lot of the research and development costs are borne by government departments as well (eg. via Fauci), but the IP is retained by those private companies. With which there is a revolving door of personnel from government and regulatory bodies. And that's before we get into the potential for vaccinations to be suppressing people's innate immunity and creating a raft of new medical conditions that would in turn require new pharmaceuticals to be developed.
    - jjeaff 5y ago
      I'm not sure that the distinction means much. I don't think anyone has been able to successfully collect anything from that compensation fund offered by the government in decades.
- ConceptJunkie 5y ago
  Also those new pharma billionaires in the past two years say it's pretty lucrative.

acdha 5y ago

Vaccines are far less profitable than most of their other drugs. If they were looking to get rich, they'd want something like the HIV inhibitors where each patient is buying from them on a frequent basis.

brippalcharrid 5y ago
Vaccines can potentially be mandated for entire populations and funded by the US taxpayer for distribution around the world and require adjustments several times per year. The development of new related vaccines of this type is apparently quite cheap and straightforward (this was boasted about at various points over the last few years) and vaccines are also pretty unique in the way that manufacturers can effectively be immune from liability. Add in the magic word Pandemic, with careful orchestration from public health authorities and politicians I think you can have a dream combination of volume, revenue and commercial risk limitation.
- Vrondi 5y ago
  Yes, as a person with a medical history of immune system disorder triggered by a vaccine, I am repeatedly astonished that the medical system and government keep claiming things we don't yet have data for, and trying to force _everyone_ to take these vaccines for which there is no legal recourse. The vaccine that gave me an auto-immune reaction is part of the established system that will allow some compensation to some victims. These new vaccines are too new, and not yet even eligible to be listed there, and so if your immune system reacts to one of the new vaccines by attacking your own body, it's not even eligible to be legally considered to give you compensation. But they're safe. Everyone should have them. Lucky you if it ruins your body or life.
  - brippalcharrid 5y ago
    Also, those compensation schemes are run by the government. And it's worth mentioning that a lot of the research and development costs are borne by government departments as well (eg. via Fauci), but the IP is retained by those private companies. With which there is a revolving door of personnel from government and regulatory bodies. And that's before we get into the potential for vaccinations to be suppressing people's innate immunity and creating a raft of new medical conditions that would in turn require new pharmaceuticals to be developed.
  - jjeaff 5y ago
    I'm not sure that the distinction means much. I don't think anyone has been able to successfully collect anything from that compensation fund offered by the government in decades.
ConceptJunkie 5y ago
Also those new pharma billionaires in the past two years say it's pretty lucrative.