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That’s not because Apple used its market position to stifle competition. It’s because Google could never figure out a messaging solution. People want a reliable

That’s not because Apple used its market position to stifle competition. It’s because Google could never figure out a messaging solution. People want a reliable and consistent experience. Not forced to switch to some half baked attempt that is nothing more than padding for some dudes promo doc

root_axis 5y ago
> That’s not because Apple used its market position to stifle competition Of course they did, all the big tech firms do but Apple is perhaps the most egregious. Whenever Apple acquires a company it shuts that company down and integrates all the IP and talent into the Apple walled garden (e.g. Dark Sky), by comparison many of the other big firms are often happy to let their acquisitions remain available to users of all platforms e.g. Instagram, WhatsApp, LinkedIn, Github etc.
- kgc 5y ago
  If you buy a company shouldn't you be able to do what you want with it?
  - root_axis 5y ago
    Yes. That's beside the point however.
  - ThatPlayer 5y ago
    When you've got huge market power, not necessarily: > In general, any business — even a monopolist — may choose its business partners. However, under certain circumstances, there may be limits on this freedom for a firm with market power. https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/competition-guidance/guide-antitrust-laws/single-firm-conduct/refusal-deal https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/competition-guidance/guide-a...
  - kaba0 5y ago
    Within the boundaries of the law, which should (ideally) be modified based on arising new problems in the benefit of people. Also, this starts getting into the “temporarily embarrassed billionaire” mindset, which is a really bad lens to view politics through.
kaba0 5y ago
So what? They are, in fact have 50+% market share in the US on handheld general computers - and they disallow me from using this general purpose computer as I see fit. Even if they got into this position by feeding the poor in God knows where, the current state in itself is the bad thing.

root_axis 5y ago

> That’s not because Apple used its market position to stifle competition Of course they did, all the big tech firms do but Apple is perhaps the most egregious. Whenever Apple acquires a company it shuts that company down and integrates all the IP and talent into the Apple walled garden (e.g. Dark Sky), by comparison many of the other big firms are often happy to let their acquisitions remain available to users of all platforms e.g. Instagram, WhatsApp, LinkedIn, Github etc.

kgc 5y ago
If you buy a company shouldn't you be able to do what you want with it?
- root_axis 5y ago
  Yes. That's beside the point however.
- ThatPlayer 5y ago
  When you've got huge market power, not necessarily: > In general, any business — even a monopolist — may choose its business partners. However, under certain circumstances, there may be limits on this freedom for a firm with market power. https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/competition-guidance/guide-antitrust-laws/single-firm-conduct/refusal-deal https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/competition-guidance/guide-a...
- kaba0 5y ago
  Within the boundaries of the law, which should (ideally) be modified based on arising new problems in the benefit of people. Also, this starts getting into the “temporarily embarrassed billionaire” mindset, which is a really bad lens to view politics through.

kaba0 5y ago

So what? They are, in fact have 50+% market share in the US on handheld general computers - and they disallow me from using this general purpose computer as I see fit. Even if they got into this position by feeding the poor in God knows where, the current state in itself is the bad thing.