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There's an enormous chance none of them are compensated. The township is in the middle of rural PA and has a population of like 17K. I would be astounded if any

There's an enormous chance none of them are compensated. The township is in the middle of rural PA and has a population of like 17K. I would be astounded if any of the supervisors are compensated.

ameister14 5y ago
They are compensated. They get the max they are allowed under state law. "the compensation for each Supervisor is hereby set at $3,250 per annum"
- thaumasiotes 5y ago
  That isn't much different from being uncompensated.
  - johnebgd 5y ago
    Most Americans make less than $35k a year. This amount could be substantial to some people.
    - thaumasiotes 5y ago
      Well, you'd have to work out how much the pay is on an hourly basis. It doesn't sound like a role that consists of nothing but collecting a stipend. But more broadly, there's an active debate over whether governmental posts should either (a) pay enough that someone could live off of one; or (b) require the person holding the post to have independent means. This is clearly on the (b) side, often felt to exclude many social classes from being able to hold a post in the government. (And sometimes invoked as a reason to overlook corruption by the officeholder - "how else are they supposed to support themselves?")
      - giantg2 5y ago
        These generally aren't full time positions and the meetings happen in the evenings. It's possible to have a job and hold office.
        smaudet 5y ago
        This is blatantly false - if you work second or third shift, you cannot hold these titles. Does that make any e.g. factory worker ineligible for titles? You might say to yourself 'but you don't want factory workers im office' - and then you'd be saying that some classes are worth more than others, that these are 'second class' citizens in the eyes of the law. And that would be a pretty disgusting viewpoint. If you can hold a job or make money, perhaps you should make nothing from the position, otherwise there should probably be a living wage stipulation.
    - emteycz 5y ago
      Most Americans make more than $35k. Median income is $42k. https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/income-poverty/cps-pinc/pinc-10.html https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/income-p...
      - lotsofpulp 5y ago
        I wonder where this discrepancy is coming from. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEPAINUSA672N https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEPAINUSA672N The St Louis Fed website also shows census.gov as the source. Perhaps one statistic is including people who do not work such as old people and the other is not?
        ameister14 5y ago
        That graph is CPI-U-RS adjusted which means it's tracking spending power not actual dollars paid. You want "current dollars" not "adjusted dollars"
- throwawaygh 5y ago
  - Daneel_ 5y ago
    Your tone and attitude are extremely antagonistic, and are not welcome here on HN. HN guidelines (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html) specifically state "Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community." I suggest reading and commenting appropriately, in which case you're far more likely to receive thoughtful replies to your comments.
    - throwawaygh 5y ago
      - pc86 5y ago
its_bbq 5y ago
It's not in the middle of rural PA, it's suburbs of the state capital. The population is low because the Carlisle Pike shopping district runs through most of it. Source: I grew up there.
pc86 5y ago
They are compensated. I was also on a council at one point, not even 30 minutes from Silver Spring, with a population of less than 3,000. I had 802 constituents. We were paid $50/mo., which calculated out to about $3/hour with the lengths of the various meetings.

There's an enormous chance none of them are compensated. The township is in the middle of rural PA and has a population of like 17K. I would be astounded if any of the supervisors are compensated.

ameister14 5y ago

They are compensated. They get the max they are allowed under state law. "the compensation for each Supervisor is hereby set at $3,250 per annum"

thaumasiotes 5y ago
That isn't much different from being uncompensated.
- johnebgd 5y ago
  Most Americans make less than $35k a year. This amount could be substantial to some people.
  - thaumasiotes 5y ago
    Well, you'd have to work out how much the pay is on an hourly basis. It doesn't sound like a role that consists of nothing but collecting a stipend. But more broadly, there's an active debate over whether governmental posts should either (a) pay enough that someone could live off of one; or (b) require the person holding the post to have independent means. This is clearly on the (b) side, often felt to exclude many social classes from being able to hold a post in the government. (And sometimes invoked as a reason to overlook corruption by the officeholder - "how else are they supposed to support themselves?")
    - giantg2 5y ago
      These generally aren't full time positions and the meetings happen in the evenings. It's possible to have a job and hold office.
      - smaudet 5y ago
        This is blatantly false - if you work second or third shift, you cannot hold these titles. Does that make any e.g. factory worker ineligible for titles? You might say to yourself 'but you don't want factory workers im office' - and then you'd be saying that some classes are worth more than others, that these are 'second class' citizens in the eyes of the law. And that would be a pretty disgusting viewpoint. If you can hold a job or make money, perhaps you should make nothing from the position, otherwise there should probably be a living wage stipulation.
  - emteycz 5y ago
    Most Americans make more than $35k. Median income is $42k. https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/income-poverty/cps-pinc/pinc-10.html https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/income-p...
    - lotsofpulp 5y ago
      I wonder where this discrepancy is coming from. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEPAINUSA672N https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEPAINUSA672N The St Louis Fed website also shows census.gov as the source. Perhaps one statistic is including people who do not work such as old people and the other is not?
      - ameister14 5y ago
        That graph is CPI-U-RS adjusted which means it's tracking spending power not actual dollars paid. You want "current dollars" not "adjusted dollars"
throwawaygh 5y ago
- Daneel_ 5y ago
  Your tone and attitude are extremely antagonistic, and are not welcome here on HN. HN guidelines (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html) specifically state "Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community." I suggest reading and commenting appropriately, in which case you're far more likely to receive thoughtful replies to your comments.
  - throwawaygh 5y ago
    - pc86 5y ago

its_bbq 5y ago

It's not in the middle of rural PA, it's suburbs of the state capital. The population is low because the Carlisle Pike shopping district runs through most of it. Source: I grew up there.

pc86 5y ago

They are compensated. I was also on a council at one point, not even 30 minutes from Silver Spring, with a population of less than 3,000. I had 802 constituents. We were paid $50/mo., which calculated out to about $3/hour with the lengths of the various meetings.