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The United States is consistently in the top decile of least corrupt countries globally. Don't really care for your second to last sentence either, let's tone t

The United States is consistently in the top decile of least corrupt countries globally. Don't really care for your second to last sentence either, let's tone that kind of rhetoric down. (The author of the Twitter thread should absolutely sue- he'll probably get a pro bono attorney from a libertarian or good government nonprofit after his thread gets attention) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

tdeck 5y ago
This list measures how corrupt people think their own governments are, which is not necessarily the same thing as a measure of actual corruption.
- Retric 5y ago
  That’s a very important difference. US corruption especially at the local level is well hidden in part due to a recent drop off in investigative reporting. It’s also been institutionalized via regulatory capture etc such that things often go unnoticed by the general public. On top of this trying to bring up how corrupt other countries are perceived is pure whataboutism.
tonfreed 5y ago
It's not corruption when you call it lobbying
- gruez 5y ago
  As it relates to this story, it most certainly isn't caused by lobbying.
- gunfighthacksaw 5y ago
  Heh I see lobbying as equal opportunity corruption. You don’t need to be from the right family or even have gone to the right school. As long as you can pay, you can play.
stevespang 5y ago
nautilius 5y ago
It's not, though, according to your own source. Also, you may also want to look at the assigned not-corrupt index rather than only a ranking, in which the US scores only 67 out of 99.
MattGaiser 5y ago
You probably meant quintile. It is not in the top decile.
throwawayin16 5y ago
habeebtc 5y ago
Indeed. The methods mentioned make it quite clear that we do not know how bad it really is very corrupt countries.
Dah00n 5y ago
Number 27 - a bit more corrupt than United Arab Emirates, Bhutan, Uruguay and Chile. How on earth could someone read that as a good position for the USA to be in? The US is constantly touted as some great leader of the world but it is never in the top of any statistics of Good Things. The US should be compared to the best (Denmark) not just be like "yeah 27 out of 180 is great" or "#25 on the Democracy Index, marked as a Flawed democracy, is amazing!"

tdeck 5y ago

This list measures how corrupt people think their own governments are, which is not necessarily the same thing as a measure of actual corruption.

Retric 5y ago
That’s a very important difference. US corruption especially at the local level is well hidden in part due to a recent drop off in investigative reporting. It’s also been institutionalized via regulatory capture etc such that things often go unnoticed by the general public. On top of this trying to bring up how corrupt other countries are perceived is pure whataboutism.

tonfreed 5y ago

It's not corruption when you call it lobbying

gruez 5y ago
As it relates to this story, it most certainly isn't caused by lobbying.
gunfighthacksaw 5y ago
Heh I see lobbying as equal opportunity corruption. You don’t need to be from the right family or even have gone to the right school. As long as you can pay, you can play.

stevespang 5y ago

nautilius 5y ago

It's not, though, according to your own source. Also, you may also want to look at the assigned not-corrupt index rather than only a ranking, in which the US scores only 67 out of 99.

MattGaiser 5y ago

You probably meant quintile. It is not in the top decile.

throwawayin16 5y ago

habeebtc 5y ago

Indeed. The methods mentioned make it quite clear that we do not know how bad it really is very corrupt countries.

Dah00n 5y ago

Number 27 - a bit more corrupt than United Arab Emirates, Bhutan, Uruguay and Chile. How on earth could someone read that as a good position for the USA to be in? The US is constantly touted as some great leader of the world but it is never in the top of any statistics of Good Things. The US should be compared to the best (Denmark) not just be like "yeah 27 out of 180 is great" or "#25 on the Democracy Index, marked as a Flawed democracy, is amazing!"