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Where are you getting the information for this claim? The vaccines certainly reduce your chance of catching it, and though vaccinated individuals may have simil

Where are you getting the information for this claim? The vaccines certainly reduce your chance of catching it, and though vaccinated individuals may have similar viral loads to unvaccinated people at peak, the period of time that they're infectious is shorter. [0] One study even suggests less infectiousness. [1] Where have you seen otherwise? [0] https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00648-4/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3... [1] https://www.jwatch.org/na54386/2021/12/15/transmission-risk-sars-cov-2-infected-fully-vaccinated https://www.jwatch.org/na54386/2021/12/15/transmission-risk-...

pcmoney 5y ago
Both of those studies predate the omnicron wave. The rate of transmission in fully vaccinated regions is still very high.
- reanimus 5y ago
  This one [0] references omicron specifically, noting that though omicron is better at evading immunity, vaccines still helped. [0] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2788485 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2788485
  - pcmoney 5y ago
    So you’re in favor of mandates along the lines of “Get the vaccine or you are fired” for marginal benefits? Would you be ok if this precedent was extended to other prevention areas? Eg. Maintain social distancing or you are fired (protests of any kind are typically not socially distanced)
    - drdeca 5y ago
      Wasn't this subthread was about your claim that getting vaccinated doesn't influence one's chance of infecting others? If you want to retreat to "ok, they probably do actually help a little bit with that, but I think the amount to which they help with that is small enough that [thing] isn't worth it.", then ok, but, like, I think you should probably make it explicit. (earlier, the topic was about like, health insurance, not employment, and so I'm using [thing] to cover both of those things.)

pcmoney 5y ago

Both of those studies predate the omnicron wave. The rate of transmission in fully vaccinated regions is still very high.

reanimus 5y ago
This one [0] references omicron specifically, noting that though omicron is better at evading immunity, vaccines still helped. [0] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2788485 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2788485
- pcmoney 5y ago
  So you’re in favor of mandates along the lines of “Get the vaccine or you are fired” for marginal benefits? Would you be ok if this precedent was extended to other prevention areas? Eg. Maintain social distancing or you are fired (protests of any kind are typically not socially distanced)
  - drdeca 5y ago
    Wasn't this subthread was about your claim that getting vaccinated doesn't influence one's chance of infecting others? If you want to retreat to "ok, they probably do actually help a little bit with that, but I think the amount to which they help with that is small enough that [thing] isn't worth it.", then ok, but, like, I think you should probably make it explicit. (earlier, the topic was about like, health insurance, not employment, and so I'm using [thing] to cover both of those things.)