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Newspeak in action in San Francisco. https://abc7.com/san-francisco-board-of-supervisors-crime-language-criminal-justice/5488088/ https://abc7.com/san-francisc

by hbarka 5y ago

Newspeak in action in San Francisco. https://abc7.com/san-francisco-board-of-supervisors-crime-language-criminal-justice/5488088/ https://abc7.com/san-francisco-board-of-supervisors-crime-la... Felon -> “justice-involved person” Juvenile delinquent -> “young person impacted by the juvenile justice system” Drug addicts -> “persons with substance abuse history” Ex-cons > “formerly incarcerated”

BEEdwards 5y ago
That's not newspeak, the aim of which was to obviate and dumb down words. This is more precise speak, it gives the actual definition instead of a broad term.
wrnr 5y ago
Oh come-on man, try to think at least one layer deep with the conspiracy stuff, obviously the lizards in control of the media want you to care about this stuff instead of geometric algebra.
jpollock 5y ago
Without getting into the validity of the rephrasing, the terms refer to different size groups. There might be better ways of defining the groups, but I assume the goal is to better reflect the target populations. If you don't define the sets properly, you end up with a tonne of special cases. "convicted felon" is a smaller subset than a "justice-involved person". Felon implies "felony", which isn't the only type of individual they want to talk about (probably involving things like misdemeanors, diversions). Same with "drug addicts". The new wording states that the person is seen to be using multiple times, but doesn't make a statement about whether or not they are addicted. They could just like drugs, without meeting the definition of addiction. "ex-con"... you can be incarcerated without conviction (pre-trial, contempt). With "Juvenile Delinquent", it's the other direction. Delinquent is a larger set than the new wording, the previous term includes miscreants who aren't in contact with the justice system.
IIAOPSW 5y ago
That's not newspeak because the quantity of vocabulary on the right is higher than it is on the left. The ability to express concepts with the words on the right is larger than on the left, whereas the point of newspeak is for it to be smaller.
- momirlan 5y ago
  The only point of newspeak is to hide the truth
  - xboxnolifes 5y ago
    The point of newspeak was to simplify the language to limit the ability to have complex thoughts or expression.
jayd16 5y ago
What if I told you the original buzzwords were more like newspeak than the detailed, albeit biased, explanation.
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by hbarka 5y ago

BEEdwards 5y ago

That's not newspeak, the aim of which was to obviate and dumb down words. This is more precise speak, it gives the actual definition instead of a broad term.

wrnr 5y ago

Oh come-on man, try to think at least one layer deep with the conspiracy stuff, obviously the lizards in control of the media want you to care about this stuff instead of geometric algebra.

jpollock 5y ago

Without getting into the validity of the rephrasing, the terms refer to different size groups. There might be better ways of defining the groups, but I assume the goal is to better reflect the target populations. If you don't define the sets properly, you end up with a tonne of special cases. "convicted felon" is a smaller subset than a "justice-involved person". Felon implies "felony", which isn't the only type of individual they want to talk about (probably involving things like misdemeanors, diversions). Same with "drug addicts". The new wording states that the person is seen to be using multiple times, but doesn't make a statement about whether or not they are addicted. They could just like drugs, without meeting the definition of addiction. "ex-con"... you can be incarcerated without conviction (pre-trial, contempt). With "Juvenile Delinquent", it's the other direction. Delinquent is a larger set than the new wording, the previous term includes miscreants who aren't in contact with the justice system.

IIAOPSW 5y ago

That's not newspeak because the quantity of vocabulary on the right is higher than it is on the left. The ability to express concepts with the words on the right is larger than on the left, whereas the point of newspeak is for it to be smaller.

momirlan 5y ago
The only point of newspeak is to hide the truth
- xboxnolifes 5y ago
  The point of newspeak was to simplify the language to limit the ability to have complex thoughts or expression.

jayd16 5y ago

What if I told you the original buzzwords were more like newspeak than the detailed, albeit biased, explanation.

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