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I was making a general point about an analogy with ‘never get fired for buying IBM’ - which of course wasn’t 100% true either. I get it that Apple products aren

I was making a general point about an analogy with ‘never get fired for buying IBM’ - which of course wasn’t 100% true either. I get it that Apple products aren’t perfect but in general for most consumers it’s a safe bet.

lotsofpulp 5y ago
And IBM lost that status after they decided to tank the relative quality of their product. I presume Apple will suffer the same fate.
- danaris 5y ago
  People have been presuming this very loudly for basically Apple's entire lifetime. I'm not saying I think they'll keep going forever, but I really don't think you should hold your breath.
  - lotsofpulp 5y ago
    Yes, I did not mean to imply that Apple is or will be on a downward trajectory soon, just that as IBM was once seem infallible and now not, Apple will be too.
- klelatti 5y ago
  IBM lost their status because the centre of gravity of the computing world moved on, not because of any product quality issues.
  - lotsofpulp 5y ago
    Not selling what people want is a better way to phrase it.
    - klelatti 5y ago
      Right and the think it’s very likely that Apple will remain a very big player in smartphones for a long time - even today IBM dominates mainframes even if no one really cares.
- nomel 5y ago
  > I presume Apple will suffer the same fate. Why? Has there been any trend to indicate they're headed in this direction?
  - teitoklien 5y ago
    The quality of ios has been reducing a lot recently, Sure it has been getting a whole lot of very nice features, but ios has been visibly buggy recently to the point where if I don’t reboot my phone atleast once every 5-6 weeks, bugs start appearing constantly, From glitching of settings app to outright daily crashes of the settings app , to safari acting weirdly, to the home screen’s app drawer vanishing suddenly or the search function vanishing. Etc, etc. (I’m on a stable modern ios version)
  - smoldesu 5y ago
    Their software quality has kinda been tanking over the past few years. Pretty much everything after Mojave has started to slide in the "please don't do this" direction (at least for me), and with Apple Silicon I really no longer have any need for a Mac. I do get where the parent comment is coming from. Commodification of technology can only go so far, and Apple is walking down the same path IBM (or even Microsoft, for that matter) did to learn that lesson.
  - lotsofpulp 5y ago
    I didn’t write that properly. I meant I expect Apple to eventually get dethroned, just like IBM was. Not that it is currently on a downward trajectory.

lotsofpulp 5y ago

And IBM lost that status after they decided to tank the relative quality of their product. I presume Apple will suffer the same fate.

danaris 5y ago
People have been presuming this very loudly for basically Apple's entire lifetime. I'm not saying I think they'll keep going forever, but I really don't think you should hold your breath.
- lotsofpulp 5y ago
  Yes, I did not mean to imply that Apple is or will be on a downward trajectory soon, just that as IBM was once seem infallible and now not, Apple will be too.
klelatti 5y ago
IBM lost their status because the centre of gravity of the computing world moved on, not because of any product quality issues.
- lotsofpulp 5y ago
  Not selling what people want is a better way to phrase it.
  - klelatti 5y ago
    Right and the think it’s very likely that Apple will remain a very big player in smartphones for a long time - even today IBM dominates mainframes even if no one really cares.
nomel 5y ago
> I presume Apple will suffer the same fate. Why? Has there been any trend to indicate they're headed in this direction?
- teitoklien 5y ago
  The quality of ios has been reducing a lot recently, Sure it has been getting a whole lot of very nice features, but ios has been visibly buggy recently to the point where if I don’t reboot my phone atleast once every 5-6 weeks, bugs start appearing constantly, From glitching of settings app to outright daily crashes of the settings app , to safari acting weirdly, to the home screen’s app drawer vanishing suddenly or the search function vanishing. Etc, etc. (I’m on a stable modern ios version)
- smoldesu 5y ago
  Their software quality has kinda been tanking over the past few years. Pretty much everything after Mojave has started to slide in the "please don't do this" direction (at least for me), and with Apple Silicon I really no longer have any need for a Mac. I do get where the parent comment is coming from. Commodification of technology can only go so far, and Apple is walking down the same path IBM (or even Microsoft, for that matter) did to learn that lesson.
- lotsofpulp 5y ago
  I didn’t write that properly. I meant I expect Apple to eventually get dethroned, just like IBM was. Not that it is currently on a downward trajectory.