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> How does Apple control communication on an iPhone? They control what messaging apps you are allowed to install on your iPhone.

ravenstine 5y ago
And what browser engine you're allowed to use and, thereby, the extent to which you can control your web experience. Then there's the App Store being both a point of control, a burden on developers, and highway robbery with Apple's 30% cut.
- zepto 5y ago
  Easily avoided if you care, by simply buying Android. Apple can’t stop that.
- threeseed 5y ago
  Apple's cut is 15% for all developers making up to $1m/year. And if you think the App Store is a burden you should try implementing customer acquisition and go-to market strategies which is what the store gives you for free.
  - gkbrk 5y ago
    > you should try implementing customer acquisition and go-to market strategies I'd try but Apple doesn't let its customers willingly install my app from me or any other open-source repository they might choose. If the only option is the App Store, it's not very surprising that the App Store is good for customer acquisition. You literally cannot acquire them any other way, you are artificially prevented by Apple's anti-competitive measures.
    - threeseed 5y ago
      Apple doesn't stop you from installing open source iOS applications. I do it all the time without having to go through the App Store.
      - mensetmanusman 5y ago
        How?
        threeseed 5y ago
        The exact same way developers run their own code on devices.
  - tonyedgecombe 5y ago
    If you think putting an app in the store is all you need to do to market your software then you are in for a shock. You would be better off taking your investment to the local casino.
zepto 5y ago
And their policies around communications apps clearly aren’t abusive.
supernova87a 5y ago
That's a little bit of an exaggerated / intentionally misconstrue-able way to say the truth, isn't it? They approve apps to be sold/distributed on their platform based on rules about what those apps do or are allowed to do, and whether they comply with local laws. You're leaning towards making it sound like they decide what messaging apps you're allowed to use based on what you plan to say (content wise) on them.

ravenstine 5y ago

And what browser engine you're allowed to use and, thereby, the extent to which you can control your web experience. Then there's the App Store being both a point of control, a burden on developers, and highway robbery with Apple's 30% cut.

zepto 5y ago
Easily avoided if you care, by simply buying Android. Apple can’t stop that.
threeseed 5y ago
Apple's cut is 15% for all developers making up to $1m/year. And if you think the App Store is a burden you should try implementing customer acquisition and go-to market strategies which is what the store gives you for free.
- gkbrk 5y ago
  > you should try implementing customer acquisition and go-to market strategies I'd try but Apple doesn't let its customers willingly install my app from me or any other open-source repository they might choose. If the only option is the App Store, it's not very surprising that the App Store is good for customer acquisition. You literally cannot acquire them any other way, you are artificially prevented by Apple's anti-competitive measures.
  - threeseed 5y ago
    Apple doesn't stop you from installing open source iOS applications. I do it all the time without having to go through the App Store.
    - mensetmanusman 5y ago
      How?
      - threeseed 5y ago
        The exact same way developers run their own code on devices.
- tonyedgecombe 5y ago
  If you think putting an app in the store is all you need to do to market your software then you are in for a shock. You would be better off taking your investment to the local casino.

zepto 5y ago

And their policies around communications apps clearly aren’t abusive.

supernova87a 5y ago

That's a little bit of an exaggerated / intentionally misconstrue-able way to say the truth, isn't it? They approve apps to be sold/distributed on their platform based on rules about what those apps do or are allowed to do, and whether they comply with local laws. You're leaning towards making it sound like they decide what messaging apps you're allowed to use based on what you plan to say (content wise) on them.