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Everyone scammed is an idiot until I'm scammed. There are many ways you can undo traditional scam transactions. Even Western Union can be undone. Cryptocurrenci

by msoad 5y ago

Everyone scammed is an idiot until I'm scammed. There are many ways you can undo traditional scam transactions. Even Western Union can be undone. Cryptocurrencies have no such means except for forking which is not going to happen for small amounts.

k__ 5y ago
I lost 600€ last year in an traditional transaction. Told the police, they said, they can't do a thing, because the scammer stole the bank account and probably lives in Estonia or somewhere. So, while I use banks on a daily basis, simply because I have to, I don't believe they are much safer.
- odshoifsdhfs 5y ago
  Did you try to work with your/estonia bank? Police can do something, but usually for small values is too much trouble, but with the police report, most banks are very accommodating (Estonia is in the EU and has to follow EU banking laws, so it isn't like the money went to some backwater, no law country)
  - k__ 5y ago
    Yes, they said, a standard transaction can't be reverted and I should talk to law enforcement.
    - odshoifsdhfs 5y ago
      Strange, I had something similar happening and they reverted/refunded me/did something (needed the police report first though). In any case, sorry it happened to you.
- 7steps2much 5y ago
  Did you talk to your bank? Getting police involved is nice and all but often times the banks themselves are a lot more helpful! Also, depending on how it was possible for the scammer to "steal the bank account" in the first place you might be entitled to damages or something, though that heavily depends on your legislation and where your bank is located of course.
philipkglass 5y ago
A friend's not-so-bright boss was recently scammed into buying Amazon gift cards, scratching to reveal the codes, and then emailing the codes to the scammer. Can that be undone? This isn't intended as a "gotcha" question. I honestly don't know.
- msoad 5y ago
  it's all about effort/reward. I'm sure "technically" with a police report you can get Amazon to return the money. I got packages stolen in front of my porch and got my money back from Amazon. Did Amazon go find the thief? Probably not. Will this always work? Probably not. But I had someone to talk to. In blockchain nobody can change the past.

by msoad 5y ago

k__ 5y ago

I lost 600€ last year in an traditional transaction. Told the police, they said, they can't do a thing, because the scammer stole the bank account and probably lives in Estonia or somewhere. So, while I use banks on a daily basis, simply because I have to, I don't believe they are much safer.

odshoifsdhfs 5y ago
Did you try to work with your/estonia bank? Police can do something, but usually for small values is too much trouble, but with the police report, most banks are very accommodating (Estonia is in the EU and has to follow EU banking laws, so it isn't like the money went to some backwater, no law country)
- k__ 5y ago
  Yes, they said, a standard transaction can't be reverted and I should talk to law enforcement.
  - odshoifsdhfs 5y ago
    Strange, I had something similar happening and they reverted/refunded me/did something (needed the police report first though). In any case, sorry it happened to you.
7steps2much 5y ago
Did you talk to your bank? Getting police involved is nice and all but often times the banks themselves are a lot more helpful! Also, depending on how it was possible for the scammer to "steal the bank account" in the first place you might be entitled to damages or something, though that heavily depends on your legislation and where your bank is located of course.

philipkglass 5y ago

A friend's not-so-bright boss was recently scammed into buying Amazon gift cards, scratching to reveal the codes, and then emailing the codes to the scammer. Can that be undone? This isn't intended as a "gotcha" question. I honestly don't know.

msoad 5y ago
it's all about effort/reward. I'm sure "technically" with a police report you can get Amazon to return the money. I got packages stolen in front of my porch and got my money back from Amazon. Did Amazon go find the thief? Probably not. Will this always work? Probably not. But I had someone to talk to. In blockchain nobody can change the past.