3 ms·
TOTP is not going anywhere for much of the Internet. Hold on while I get a Yuibikey to my dad who thinks "folders can't be in other folders" because that's not
by unethical_ban 5y ago
TOTP is not going anywhere for much of the Internet. Hold on while I get a Yuibikey to my dad who thinks "folders can't be in other folders" because that's not how they work in real life.
TOTP is a great security enhancement, and while phishable, considerably raises the bar for an attacker.
The fact that TOTP is mentioned as a bad practice in this document is an indicator that this should not be considered a general best practices guide. It is a valid best practice guide for a particular use case and particular user base.
- adgjlsfhk1 5y agothe advantage of fido2/webauthn is actually biggest for non techies. tech people are the ones who won't fall for take bad phishing attempts. stopping malicious logins from fake sites is a massive win.
- tptacek 5y agoYubikeys aren't the serious long-term alternative to TOTP; software keys embedded in phones are what we're going to end up with.
- zie 5y agoI want to disagree, but I can't, because you are right. Though perhaps as wearable tech grows(watches and what not), perhaps the keys will exist there also.
- takumif 5y agoI have a newbie question: Can't we embed a hardware key into a phone, and that'd be just as good as a Yubikey? Do we already do this, or is there a reason why we don't?
- totony 5y agoLaptops can have smart cards so there's no reason a phone couldn't
- konklone 5y agoThe document distinguishes between enterprise-facing and public-facing systems. For enterprise-facing (government employees, contractors, etc.), it's talking about discontinuing use of TOTP. For public-facing systems, it doesn't impose any restrictions, since (as you're saying) the general public really needs options.