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I thought I heard the idea for CO2stats somewhere before... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence Oh yeah, that's it

I thought I heard the idea for CO2stats somewhere before... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence Oh yeah, that's it.

jrockway 18y ago
It's not quite as bad as that. It's better to burn coal and buy a few trees than it is to just burn the coal, right? While I don't think that carbon offsetting is going to solve any long-term problems, it is nice to plant some trees and have a bit more money poured into renewable energy research. We're not going to see real change until we are out of coal and oil. Hopefully that will happen soon. (Yes, it will be painful. But the sooner the pain starts, the sooner it will be over with.)
- corentin 18y ago
  You should cut your both arms then, so you won't have to suffer losing them should you become involved in an accident.
  - jrockway 18y ago
    That is a different situation. It's not likely that I will ever lose my limbs. It is likely that we will run out of oil and coal some day, since we use a lot and there isn't a lot left.
    - Protophore 18y ago
      I think you may be mistaken on ther enot being a lot of coal left: "According to the widely accepted view, at current production levels proven coal reserves will last 155 years (this according to the World Coal Institute). The US Department of Energy (USDoE) projects annual global coal consumption to grow 2.5 per cent a year through 2030, by which time world consumption will be nearly double that of today." From: http://www.energybulletin.net/node/29919 http://www.energybulletin.net/node/29919 The article goes on to say that we probably don't have 155 years of coal reserves, but it should still last for some time now, unless the rate of usage sky rockets.
      - jrockway 18y ago
        So your argument is that the human race will be wiped out in 155 years, so we don't need to worry?
        Protophore 18y ago
        No, my argument would be that in 155 years we'll have better alternative sources of energy. Wind and Solar are already viable alternatives, with time their cost will come down and their efficiency will go up potentially eliminating the need for fossil fuels such as coal.
- eru 18y ago
  Oil will get scarce, soon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal#World_coal_reserves http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal#World_coal_reserves says: "At the current production rate, [coal reserves] would last 164 years."

I thought I heard the idea for CO2stats somewhere before... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence Oh yeah, that's it.

jrockway 18y ago

It's not quite as bad as that. It's better to burn coal and buy a few trees than it is to just burn the coal, right? While I don't think that carbon offsetting is going to solve any long-term problems, it is nice to plant some trees and have a bit more money poured into renewable energy research. We're not going to see real change until we are out of coal and oil. Hopefully that will happen soon. (Yes, it will be painful. But the sooner the pain starts, the sooner it will be over with.)

corentin 18y ago
You should cut your both arms then, so you won't have to suffer losing them should you become involved in an accident.
- jrockway 18y ago
  That is a different situation. It's not likely that I will ever lose my limbs. It is likely that we will run out of oil and coal some day, since we use a lot and there isn't a lot left.
  - Protophore 18y ago
    I think you may be mistaken on ther enot being a lot of coal left: "According to the widely accepted view, at current production levels proven coal reserves will last 155 years (this according to the World Coal Institute). The US Department of Energy (USDoE) projects annual global coal consumption to grow 2.5 per cent a year through 2030, by which time world consumption will be nearly double that of today." From: http://www.energybulletin.net/node/29919 http://www.energybulletin.net/node/29919 The article goes on to say that we probably don't have 155 years of coal reserves, but it should still last for some time now, unless the rate of usage sky rockets.
    - jrockway 18y ago
      So your argument is that the human race will be wiped out in 155 years, so we don't need to worry?
      - Protophore 18y ago
        No, my argument would be that in 155 years we'll have better alternative sources of energy. Wind and Solar are already viable alternatives, with time their cost will come down and their efficiency will go up potentially eliminating the need for fossil fuels such as coal.
eru 18y ago
Oil will get scarce, soon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal#World_coal_reserves http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal#World_coal_reserves says: "At the current production rate, [coal reserves] would last 164 years."